From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Nov 06 08:24:23 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gh7GX-0008Cg-7Y for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:24:05 -0800 Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gh7GQ-0008CX-9G for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:24:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF34EBC93 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:23:55 +0600 (NOVT) Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32259-10 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:23:53 +0600 (NOVT) Received: from mail.211.ru (mail [10.5.1.2]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EB3EBC31 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:23:52 +0600 (NOVT) Received: from host-102-2-129.211.ru (host-102-2-129.211.ru [10.102.2.129]) by mail.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id E929A5C59 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:23:52 +0600 (NOVT) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:23:49 +0600 From: Yanis Batura X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.04) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <438734691.20061106222349@mail.ru> To: "Andrii (lOkadin) Zvorygin" Subject: [lojban] Re: livejournal discrimination In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 12912 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list

On 06.11.2006, 21:36, Andrii (lOkadin) Zvorygin wrote:

Today, I woke up in the morning, after making a contribution. To hear that now my contribution was going to be mangled, my art: destroyed. In any case though I don't enjoy being harrassed, stigmatized and singled out. I guess either you segregate your already limited membership or you accept others. What is your purpose?

On 11/6/06, Alex Martini <alexjm@umich.edu> wrote:

Just saw your lj post. I love the fact that you're writing material.

It's great to see folks using Lojban.

However, the livejournal is rather visible to the public. And so it's

really not the place for your non-standard orthography.

Unless you can give me some real reasons not to, I'm going to convert

it to standard CLL style in about 12 hours. Feel free to respond

personally or to the mailing list. Just have some solid backing this

time, or let it go.

mu'omi'e aleks

ta'onai it's not the end of the world.ui. The CLL supports explicit stress, and even has examples of it. ...

There's a Russian saying roughly translated to English as: "Let the child choose whatever toy,

provided it doesn't cry". Its English counterpart is "Any toy is O.K. that keeps the baby at play".

Really, Alex, what was wrong with Andrii's creativity? I didn't like that style, too, but not to the extent of erasing or blocking - it is not at all offending or disturbing. Just skip it, if you don't like it! Maybe Andrii will find his confederates some day... After all, we are not that so many Lojbanists, are we?

mi'e .ianis.

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