From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Nov 06 13:42:10 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GhCE3-00069w-FB for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:41:51 -0800 Received: from web30409.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.112]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GhCE0-00069o-18 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:41:51 -0800 Received: (qmail 79716 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 2006 21:41:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=z0XKRyBAjytsUwFDkNP6tn4A26LIQphFLKlovO+mQHGtVsqWny4OGqAs+j5W4hxhCKsZhy49YmvXPHy3/4Gt34VsADbr+YFjNzSO9fUNEtKxYtSdWutCgvVo2Lu7Aq45FxO+dg/Cj2PzcDx1sLS2v0Q99NaEsMvXYJfofPXLnzI= ; Message-ID: <20061106214146.79708.qmail@web30409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [132.178.229.167] by web30409.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:41:46 PST Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:41:46 -0800 (PST) From: Jon MacLeod Subject: [lojban] Re: coirodo.com To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-archive-position: 12925 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eye_onus@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I would suggest putting words with easy/obvious picture representations in grade 1 (cat, dog, house, etc.) as well as attitudinals, words with fairly obvious rep. but non-object meanings in grade 2 (go, talk, etc.) as well as pro-sumti, purely abstract words in grade 5. This is a top of the head remark, so it's not very well thought out, but I thought it my help and I would /relly/ appreciate having a resource like that- especially if the LLG published it into a book I could carry with me. The big red one is nice if I need to grep how to construct a certain element of a sentence, but what I really need is a vocab learning tool that doesn't require a computer, seeing as how I don't have one, just computer access from my college. --- Alex Martini wrote: > To my knowledge, most or all of Lojban is public domain. > > Why don't we start with a sort of road map; figure out key vocab and > grammar? Then we can decide order. Or just borrow order from Lojban > for Beginners, bearing in mind the byfy changes to the grammar since > then. > > Honestly, I think it would be a good idea to just have a standard > level division of Lojban. Similar to how we have Spanish 1 - 5 > classes. Sort of break Lojban vocabulary and grammar up into 4 or 5 > grades, and standardize from there. > > I'd help put together lessons as well, though my graphic skills > aren't much. > > mu'omi'e aleks > > On Nov 5, 2006, at 4:44 AM, Andrii (lOkadin) Zvorygin wrote: > > > You want to start on that project? I don't know what licenses of > > the CLL and the LFB are, but hopefully they are creative-commons > > compatible. We could probably at least make a transitional lojban > > document. Where you start in english and as you introduce new > > concepts you apply them right away. like maybe introduce grammar > > first, so use lojban placement using english words, and just show > > how that would work. and substitute in vocabulary words as you see > > fit. I'm sure you've already thought of this. If you'd like to go > > ahead with it, I'd be happy to help .ui > > > > On 11/4/06, Jon MacLeod wrote: > > I agree, it is very cool. It kinda reminded me os Dr. Suess' "One > > Fish, Two > > Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish". > > > > We need more things like that- The pictures were very helpful, plus > > there's the > > great part- anyone who looks at something like the presentation on > > that site > > will /immediately/ know what blanu, finpe, and such mean, > > regardless of > > language. > > > > I've always felt that what the Lojban community needs, or at least, > > should > > eventually develop, is a Lojban teaching resource entirely in > > Lojban, which > > starts simply, such as the site's "coi rodo", giving a person the > > needed > > vocabulary be able to learn the rest as defined in terms of Lojban. > > > > I can read Lojban texts fairly well, but I still have to refer to my > > Lojban-English dictionary to actually /understand/ it, and my > > reason is because > > I'm having a difficult time remembering what the freaking words / > > mean/. > > (Although I doubt I'll ever forget blanu, xunre, or finpe are again.) > > > > --- Chris Double wrote: > > > > > I did a google search for lojban today and noticed a nifty ad on the > > > right hand side taking me to the very cool: > > > > > > http://coirodo.com > > > > > > I've not seen it mentioned here before so thought I'd bring it > > up. It's nice! > > > > > > Chris. > > > -- > > > http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list- > > request@lojban.org > > > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/ > > lsg2/, or if > > > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Jon Jones > > > > "I have a brain, I've just lost my mind." -Ian McLeod > > > > "As a percentage of total universal knowledge, what I know is > > statistically insignificant." - me > > > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > > Version 3.12 > > GCS>$ d+(++) s++:-- a- C++ UL P L++>+++++ !E W+(++) N+ o? K- !w---- > > O- M-(+)@ V? 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