From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Nov 09 16:03:44 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:03:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiJri-0007Cl-54 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:03:26 -0800 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.184]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GiJrd-0007Cc-38 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:03:25 -0800 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so1375770nfb for ; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:03:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hmihX1IbNCslrGWrm7tDMeZdwcGeEbSlSH8KycqSEape0qgZhMxwhmtG5zVa9X30YOaRUxCbEOwTC7JzbDJxxdjrJXGVlQkX4l6xI977WbwCVTzdLrdjpEgpJ7M+9cIFww2EBjQAHACf/0pPKzuZfQy5VGHfN1t+jlhs2Fn8QHw= Received: by 10.49.70.16 with SMTP id x16mr4875408nfk.1163116999157; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [81.7.45.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k24sm3439439nfc.2006.11.09.16.03.18; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:03:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4553C1C5.7050107@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 00:03:17 +0000 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: livejournal discrimination References: <2d3df92a0611061040o5b0781c0o3df414476a3e0b68@mail.gmail.com> <200611081049.40483.colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com> <45533464.7080901@lojban.org> <4553A799.5010907@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: <4553A799.5010907@lojban.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 13013 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: and.rosta@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Bob LeChevalier, On 09/11/2006 22:11: >>> Colin Fine, a skilled Lojbanist, tried LOkadin's trick of writing >>> without spaces back in 1992 > > It's been 14 or 15 years so I can't be sure I remember them, but Colin wasn't a reformer. Colin (like me) followed the rules of grammar and ignored the normative conventions of prevailing usage. E.g. I recollect him liking to place the selbri after all the sumti instead of between the first and second sumti. This approach contrasted with that of Nick, who felt that it was the emergence of stylistic conventions that would breathe life into the language, and with that of many other Lojbanists who felt that the lojbo community's main goal should be to build a speech community, to the achevement of which goal the flouting of normative conventions is plainly an impediment. --And. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.