From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Nov 19 17:16:37 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:16:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Glxlg-0007wv-Ex for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:16:16 -0800 Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GlxlZ-0007wZ-1q for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:16:16 -0800 Received: from localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD43AEBC96 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:16:07 +0600 (NOVT) Received: from mx.211.ru ([193.238.131.194]) by localhost (mx.211.ru [193.238.131.194]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54602-07 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:16:05 +0600 (NOVT) Received: from mail.211.ru (mail [10.5.1.2]) by mx.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3832EBC9A for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:16:05 +0600 (NOVT) Received: from host-102-2-129.211.ru (host-102-2-129.211.ru [10.102.2.129]) by mail.211.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBFF5C1C for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:16:05 +0600 (NOVT) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:15:58 +0600 From: Yanis Batura X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.04) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4810154213.20061120071558@mail.ru> To: Bob LeChevalier Subject: [lojban] Re: ki'a In-Reply-To: <4560FB73.5060706@lojban.org> References: <492596e80611182014o7608f9d3k76f7247f5926b98b@mail.gmail.com> <1df90d2b0611182026yeb05a5eo95f815883cb20fd@mail.gmail.com> <836504149.20061119104734@mail.ru> <4560FB73.5060706@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 13215 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ybatura@mail.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 20.11.2006, 6:48, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Yanis Batura wrote: >> {pinpedi} is a stage 4 fu'ivla, like {djirafa}, {alga}, {caxmati} etc. > And is an example of why I am opposed to inventing stage 4 fu'ivla at > this point in the language evolution - as we can see, no one has any > idea what it means. A fu'ivla should remain a Type III - marked by a > semantic-hint rafsi - until its usage is so common that usage (and/or > Zipf's law) indicates a need for a shorter form. I don't think that any > fu'ivla has received such usage. There are only 1342 semantic hint classes. So, if we want to fu'ivlize games like "Go" we will have to stick to {kelcr-}: {kelcrgo}. One might then wonder what type of PLAYER Go is. > lojbab > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. mi'e .ianis To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.