From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Nov 23 05:39:50 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnEnS-0005FP-PP for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:39:23 -0800 Received: from web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.121]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnEnK-0005Ec-Jn for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:39:21 -0800 Received: (qmail 51787 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Nov 2006 13:39:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mXdyE4mNj7v57KDPXGkueD15DNEs9om31DXAamohPu84/fka/XBbcl0qYqtlWrms2QtHzwsWvJWOZAh+laYm20xh9znXC37gvvXh3XHSoWtFtT3OL2RdqPSWJJWGCFqZH9V4UoDNFSzp2mjywlRIsKpq6T9lNnMKspv+Tc2PCx8= ; Message-ID: <20061123133913.51785.qmail@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.237.213.146] by web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:39:13 PST Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:39:13 -0800 (PST) From: John E Clifford Subject: [lojban] Re: semantic category vs. gender To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-archive-position: 13256 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list And, of course, the countless cases that cut against the apparent semantic classes: ships are feminine in English, farmers and sailors are feminine in Latin, all small/young/dear things are neuter in German, and so on. --- MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/23/2006 4:23:18 AM Central Standard Time, > ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > > > > Gender in language IS a form of semantic classifier, having only 1 or 2 > > or 3 categories in Indo-European languages (and thus being rather > > useless most of the time, but apparently useful enough that most IE > > languages have those categories), but having larger numbers of > > genders/categories in other languages. > > > > lojbab > > > > I doubt that gender in European languages is really a semantic category, > beyond the obvious few words relating directly to sexual entities. > > stevo > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.