From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Dec 02 18:41:02 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:41:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GqhHW-00005z-DO for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:40:42 -0800 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GqhHT-0008Vs-63 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:40:42 -0800 Received: from [192.168.7.3] (unknown [192.168.7.3]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AF5CE89B for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 21:40:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <457238F3.1070906@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 21:39:47 -0500 From: Pierre Abbat User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.5 (Windows/20050711) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: (no subject)/Borges References: <20061202021017.F3D9B109E5F@ws6-4.us4.outblaze.com> <4571B24F.7070700@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: <4571B24F.7070700@lojban.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-archive-position: 13293 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Arika Okrent wrote: >> example, the speaker of Guugu Yimidhirr has no way to express his >> particular metaphysics in Loglan because Loglan spatial reference is >> defined with respect to the speaker, and not, as in his own language, >> with respect to an absolute reference frame. > > > I won't pretend to know that language, but I suspect that if someone > figured out how it worked, we would find a way to express it in Lojban > (we would need to ask pc, who was our expert on strange tense systems, > if it was already considered). There's already a link to the future article about that language - look at [[kanguru]]. Want to write it? > The real test might be if someone tries to express all of the features > and assumptions of sign language into Lojban. This was something that > came up once (I'm assuming it wasn't you - the person, whose name I > can't remember, but s/he was especially interested written > transcriptions of sign language, I think based on choreography notation > - seemed to think Lojban could meet the challenge, if in no other way by > coming up with verbal representations of written sign language). You > may be in a better position to evaluate, having examined sign language > linguistically. Are you thinking of Sign Writing / Sutton Movement Writing? phma To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.