From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jan 05 11:07:51 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:07:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H2uPa-0003C6-J6 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:07:31 -0800 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.175]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H2uPS-0003By-Hc for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:07:29 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m3so5595707uge for ; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:07:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CbB0HMwGoXGIKEvJVUVJfB3/6RjrfULc8SAARW85xTCMxSFL0NnuHZ02cgCn7ncU3s+gUF0nEDtq5qN52fKztxRtghSyEK4f4WHWt75S0uaxZSntyXVMxkSoZ0Xubqt0wQ280O7KB2dtm7T3t4kNMMAyaCmn0y8RuQ3IjNdBpu0= Received: by 10.82.111.8 with SMTP id j8mr2231981buc.1168024039855; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.115.20 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:07:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560701051107x61f57454x9dba1da1af8dfa2f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:07:19 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Duty, promice etc... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3ccac5f10701050608x71a6381p89a54e54e2239e65@mail.gmail.com> <95093.56426.qm@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d17560701050934yc0c5158w7d06fb2f916dc9a@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10701051012g4a37b11fnc22ce33e68d30747@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13499 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 1/5/07, Jim Carter wrote: > > I can't resist this thread... "I promise to jump off Lover's Leap if you > don't marry me". If the response were "Your promise is silly", it could > reasonably be interpreted in all of the ways Cyril mentioned: > > "Jumping off Lover's Leap is silly" (but a careful speaker would say just > that, not using "your promise" to represent the event promised). Yes: "Your promise, i.e. jumping off Lover's Leap if I don't marry you, is silly." > "Promising to jump off the cliff is silly". That's the best > interpretation. Really? "Your promise, i.e. promising to jump off the cliff if I don't marry you, is silly." That doexsn't sound right to me. Of course it can be inferred from "your promise is silly" that "your making such a silly promise is silly", but that's not what "your promise is silly" says directly, as far as I understand. > "Promising that, and then actually doing it, is even more silly". It is even more silly, I agree, but can you really say that "your promise is silly" means: "Your promise, i.e. promising to jump of the cliff, and then actually doing it, is silly." mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.