From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jan 05 11:22:33 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:22:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H2udp-0003So-Hs for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:22:14 -0800 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.234]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H2udi-0003Sf-4a for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:22:13 -0800 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i4so994022wra for ; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:22:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=sk5xzLhRllk7kbL3KzaIXVITyglu1OrkYvEF2Dsn5S0eOsRE6F0Lf1fIgzrN5eO1GJyxs1usKWKn+9VBdjMYa9xl7zhiYiyOMWVXpD2N/69o4rHIMKPbIZU6EzFVb4hKXkN24KQQLt105xmM8+zudJdxNis29zXUYI0UushpTmY= Received: by 10.90.116.6 with SMTP id o6mr944570agc.1168024922898; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:22:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.31.16 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:22:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ccac5f10701051122x6bd822a1wb5f1f4f04af79912@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:22:02 +0300 From: "Cyril Slobin" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Duty, promice etc... In-Reply-To: <925d17560701051107x61f57454x9dba1da1af8dfa2f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3ccac5f10701050608x71a6381p89a54e54e2239e65@mail.gmail.com> <95093.56426.qm@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d17560701050934yc0c5158w7d06fb2f916dc9a@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10701051012g4a37b11fnc22ce33e68d30747@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560701051107x61f57454x9dba1da1af8dfa2f@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 918e98b8003f54f5 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13502 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: slobin@ice.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list coi xorxes > It is even more silly, I agree, but can you really say that "your promise > is silly" means: > "Your promise, i.e. promising to jump of the cliff, and then actually > doing it, is silly." My problem is not to evaluate what English statement "You promise is silly" means. I am not a fluent English speaker and probably do not catch such a subtleties. In Russian language all three meanings are possible. My problem is how to express this last meaning in Lojban, as short as possible. ... le nu remna jundi cu vamrai selru'e pi'o le purgundi remce'u ... -- Cyril Slobin To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.