From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 10 04:40:25 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H4ckG-0002gk-40 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:39:56 -0800 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H4ck8-0002gU-5v for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:39:55 -0800 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so823219nfb for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:39:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qtVkRSaryQZ35GAfGeHos7OM3c7Q2l16htZ2pB2NA2jhQONJ0WM3XGy6a/xKfz76QcJYPnL1uc8IBWpBMT80Lc2qq/0VPbt4s+qShEIi7cxbFNOU5z1QCd/JzaZTGTIA0zafyK8yZYmzcuRD3AyNFu8hM69xT5FPdRhjnMfJKCQ= Received: by 10.49.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr1141972nfj.1168432786532; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:39:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.9.12 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:39:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560701100439x3f4e2c9ape3464d1c8989ab7c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:39:46 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: "any" and "every" In-Reply-To: <3ccac5f10701100212n320914b0x651953e5b926fb2b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3ccac5f10701100212n320914b0x651953e5b926fb2b@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13534 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 1/10/07, Cyril Slobin wrote: > What does the sentence {mi kakne lonu mi catra ro remna} mean? > > 1) "I can devastate the whole Earth" > 2) "I can kill any one man of my choice, but then I probably will be > arrested and not able to kill the second, the third etc..." To make the difference explicitly: 1) mi kakne lo nu ro da poi remna zo'u mi catra da 2) ro da poi remna zo'u mi kakne lo nu mi catra da > I think the right answer is second, and for the first one one needs > {mi kakne lonu mi catra piro loi remna}, but I am not sure. Any > comments? I think when a quantifier is not put explicitly in a prenex, it is assumed to be in the most immediate one, so it would be (1), but in any case you can always make it explicit. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.