From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 10 08:15:52 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:15:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H4g6p-0000CV-Mg for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:15:28 -0800 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.187]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H4g6h-0000CK-Jj for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:15:27 -0800 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so921293nfb for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:15:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SxiEKQjzUnAoF9k9KgbpbeEPA0GgmH95LeNptRok+pmx6Ycc/zPoPvLKQuvUgPV07fYMWued327r7zhUYqpsyQumPu4ZTABCErc4dkRMlOcHbaxLmvJ/Uszk3ngJetTxkc9Re9ip79zfQXjEKq1Y8RHrBJrRBf4TB8l5xqhcW28= Received: by 10.49.26.18 with SMTP id d18mr1318345nfj.1168445709502; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:15:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.9.12 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:15:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560701100815q7334f766u8ea028ae3cc66b0b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:15:09 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Duty, promice etc... In-Reply-To: <3ccac5f10701080631i108f5020le78e07397c04f080@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560701060757o1c0b3914w2f28416a2858cb29@mail.gmail.com> <611088.72555.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d17560701070458t7243c3a0n2368d08b771cd615@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10701070552o6995a1fetce44cc0fd724ee82@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560701070904g78dba657j8a8510465d3c1cc7@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10701071208j3249b18ao83185aad8a3fdd5e@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560701071322l28145cb7u46eaa75b9255c71d@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10701080631i108f5020le78e07397c04f080@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13535 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 1/8/07, Cyril Slobin wrote: > > I am not sure, whether {ba'o broda} implies success or not, but even > if it does, success may be undone shortly thereafter. I think {ba'o} by itself would not indicate completion. We have for the termination point itself the three possibilities: mo'u broda (completion) de'a broda (non-completion) co'u broda (indeterminate for completion) I would say {ba'o mo'u broda} is the situation after completion, {ba'o de'a broda} is the situation after ceasing without completion, and {ba'o co'u broda} = {ba'o broda} is not determined either way. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.