From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 19 10:56:59 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTM5y-0000RC-GP for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:56:35 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTM5x-0000R5-Jp for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:56:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:56:33 -0700 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Fwd: Russell's Anti-Paradox -- for translating to Lojban Message-ID: <20070319175633.GG11567@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 13614 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 12:20:20PM -0400, Andrii (lOkadin) Zvorygin wrote: > The Russell's paradox has been around a long time. I really wonder > why no one has noticed that "barber shop" example is a false > analogy to the Universal Set. I won't get into the barbershop > example as it would only distract from the logic but I do have a > full thread There are at least 3 problems here: 1. This is utterly off topic; translate it into Lojban and I'd be more interested. Using "da" does not make it interesting. 2. You're using special magical characters that aren't in my UTF-8 font; since I've put a lot of effort into my UTF-8 setup, I can only assume that most people reading this get horrible mangling. Just use ASCII replacements for the notation like everybody else. 3. You've missed the point entirely. The *point* of Russell's paradox was to show a problem with *19th century* set theory. The fact that you, a student of modern set theory, can resolve it or show it not be a paradox simply means that Russell succeeded at fixing the problems he saw. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.