From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu May 24 14:40:17 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 24 May 2007 14:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HrL2I-0004QE-8k for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:39:55 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HrL2D-0004Q0-Mb for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:39:53 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 78so568628ugn for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:39:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=jG4SK7CbCQs+fVH34GfVt8F/WOj77O33muhogCPhRETbpDRbbO6nkUsEiz3DlNcdOh5baqsIfaTiS1oIHGApOhGlFtJbQ1BjbblzL3tbU/5gna2W4FRdCcJvpmirVv14S74j9cizzZJF33ktVbdngThLdYKQBxJhqdrF8z4Qwfs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=XVPBYVS38ezjn8dPcnIc6bd3oaBbhRLKc+mv2+VUkb6jvK1nsPk1AIIy69FiohO+/SUHgfFECu4GSGQaf5ogiQTzE2WY6vJV+Ai1yyrl3qOh2g0fIcV45+0V9loGuaDV3WaVUBBLSnB3+5QTC1JkUCNfIplmqNeBGd1+M7o9Bzg= Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr2429993ugl.1180042788073; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hithaiglin.local ( [81.70.14.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 72sm2776610ugb.2007.05.24.14.39.46; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:39:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Dominic van Berkel Organization: Nazgjunk.nl To: lojban-list@lojban.org, lojban-beginners@lojban.org, llg-members@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] BPFK Taskmaster Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 23:39:34 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705242339.36445.nazgjunk@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13730 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: nazgjunk@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list coi lojbanistan. Recently a mail hit the mailinglists concerning the need for an "organizer/task-master" to get the work of the BPFK (for those not familiar with lojbanistan bureaucracy, http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=baupla+fuzykamni ) done much faster than it will at its current pace. Today I've had the job defined quite clearly by Robin Lee Powell. As it's a slight change in policy, we deemed it worthy an Official Notice. I wish Pooh was here to make it. The taskmaster (I prefer this term, as not much actual organising will have to be done) will check, roughly once weekly, if any progress has been made regarding the current section the BPFK is supposedly working on. If people have actively been working on it and progress has been made or will be made in the very very near future, the taskmaster won't have to interfere - business as usual, the BPFK is doing it's job as it should. However, as soon as nothing significant has been done but the section is in a votable state (meaning that we is a concrete issue to vote on) in the past week the taskmaster will call a vote, with a limit of about 3 days. Whatever the outcome of that vote be, the taskmaster will pick (pretty much at random) a new section for the BPFK to work on and bug the members to work on it. This is possibly the most important part of the job. As rlpowell eloquently put it: So the basic problem is twofold: (1) we're all lazy/busy/whatever (2) we get stuck on problems because we care about them. We've been stuck on the same section for no good reason for months. The outcome of the vote is by no means binding - at the end of the road all issues will be voted on again. If the current section is not in a voteable state yet not work has been done over the past week the taskmaster will be slightly annoyed with the lack of progress and choose a new section to work on nonetheless. This is not necessarily a bad thing, as it'll be much easier to start working on an issue that has already been worked on than to start with a pure and virginal issue. Again, the taskmaster will bug the members to do stuff. The taskmaster will not be involved with any of the issues nor participate in votes - his/her sole task will be to urge/yell at/bug the BPFK to do stuff. Now, as soon as I received the mail with the request I applied, and currently I've been assigned as taskmaster. Not because of my awesome resume, but simply because someone has to do it (there are no actual requirements, it's a simple enough job to be honest). If things don't work out between me and the BPFK someone else will be assigned, I know of some other people who would gladly do it. I'm happy to accept the job, and I'll start yelling at the BPFK somewhere during the next week. I will rewrite/edit this into a wiki page tomorrow and mail the link, just to get things straight. In case anyone else wants to bother with that, please do. Remember to link it with the baupla fuzykamni somehow and possibly mail the link in reply to this message. Thanks for tuning in, Dominic van Berkel / Nazgjunk / mi'e pocev -- "Bi-la Kaifa" "Pure Vernunft darf niemals siegen" -- Tocotronic www.nazgjunk.nl - Poetry&Blog To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.