From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Nov 05 07:29:31 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:29:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3t4-0006ZI-II for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:29:25 -0800 Received: from squid17.laughingsquid.net ([72.32.93.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3sj-0006YW-CQ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:29:09 -0800 Received: (qmail 32019 invoked by uid 48); 5 Nov 2007 07:01:50 -0800 Received: from c-75-68-233-37.hsd1.vt.comcast.net (c-75-68-233-37.hsd1.vt.comcast.net [75.68.233.37]) by webmail.ixkey.info (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:01:50 -0800 Message-ID: <20071105070150.y23xwceclwo484s4@webmail.ixkey.info> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:01:50 -0800 From: mungojelly@ixkey.info To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: o'e vs i'i References: <737b61f30711032004i3bc557b7j7d2167598486ac38@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <737b61f30711032004i3bc557b7j7d2167598486ac38@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13897 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mungojelly@ixkey.info Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Quoting Chris Capel : > {o'e} vs {i'i}. What's the difference? I would say .o'e to .o'enai is emotional distance, closeness, connection. ".o'enai" is like "feeling distant," being not connected. .i'i to .i'inai is more like sociality, hanging out, togetherness, camaraderie. ".i'inai" is like wanting to be alone, wanting some space. So if you said "do .o'e .i'inai" that would be like "I feel close to you, but right now I need some space", while "do .i'i .o'enai" would be like "we're on the same team doing this together, but I don't actually feel that close to you." I've said a few times lately: "la lojban. .i'i" and what I mean by that is: "Lojban, which we're all sharing together, which is our team, Ra Ra Go Lojban." If I were to say: "la lojban. .o'e" that would seem to me like "Lojban, which I feel a close personal connection to, which is close to me." Also true. :) Just my opinions. :) <3, brett To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.