From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Nov 13 06:08:12 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IrwQp-0001Si-Qe for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:08:08 -0800 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IrwQT-0001Rk-3O for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:07:53 -0800 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id d.ca3.1cf29faf (39329) for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:07:07 -0500 (EST) From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:07:07 EST Subject: [lojban] respect To: lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ca3.1cf29faf.346b098b_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 11501 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 12 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 13926 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --part1_ca3.1cf29faf.346b098b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/13/2007 4:34:07 AM Central Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > We need not do all cultures the respect of uncritically accepting > their ideas (not hardly!) but here the respect we are discussing is > the basic respect of being honorably named, and I will proudly stand > again behind saying that we as a community should offer that without > hesitation to all peoples on this Earth. > > > mi'e bret. > You have limited the topic of discussion to your own viewpoint. I was talking about the former one. All cultures should have a name, a handle by which they can be discussed. Naming something has nothing in common with respecting it. Lojbab's (I think) suggestion for different lujvo to identify more precisely what the topic is is surely a good one. Witness the confusion between Brett's idea of what we were talking about and mine, in both cases "respect". stevo --part1_ca3.1cf29faf.346b098b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 11/13/2007 4:34:07 AM Cen= tral Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes:


We need not do all cultures= the respect of uncritically accepting  
their ideas (not hardly!) but here the respect we are discussing is &nbs= p;
the basic respect of being honorably named, and I will proudly stand &nb= sp;
again behind saying that we as a community should offer that without &nb= sp;
hesitation to all peoples on this Earth.


mi'e bret.


You have limited the topic of discussion to your own viewpoint.  I=20= was talking about the former one.  
All cultures should have a name, a handle by which they can be discussed= .  Naming something has nothing in common with respecting it.
Lojbab's (I think) suggestion for different lujvo to identify more preci= sely what the topic is is surely a good one.  Witness the confusion bet= ween Brett's idea of what we were talking about and mine, in both cases "res= pect".

stevo
--part1_ca3.1cf29faf.346b098b_boundary-- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.