From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Nov 18 04:16:18 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Itj48-0000oM-58 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:16:13 -0800 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.190]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Itj3d-0000my-7v for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:15:50 -0800 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so996090nfv for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:15:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=y38bHE/WqNcJW/IRCVQeKuN8P2hqfwaDqOT2wZv5Ehk=; b=V8VEgLTsgyHogeYFUOXKDnvIeT7oGFVDGCSEcX5euJ+W8SIl+r0XaJx2cWoqlCcWs7rc8QP+WvYIpncHRUHrFegf3qOKLFHPeXLdOm2olgtrw7V+rMpBrDmaI1GKZ2P1fNc04xNRpgbnkC+0unrXh6KGTicpdF9xvn5vqSBx8QA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=sJlitL+S58pR3Ogq/9WcbTMOdU7yfbz15RoWJUkrJTozrl3ozyyljl/yZLZB+i4oA0yrHbnCZ/UJSn1UIo9fjmTnO8vDMQCBIEJy+Uryeer6S9S+Bch9W0Iu0xA6lMp4hzQnFNcOpkhPCpq3xBDzyykBAmuraYJBo4hPoR1B1YI= Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr3802216hue.1195384866788; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:21:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.141.13 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:21:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <55b258c20711180321k74a85dc9g5e20b809d58b7e93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 05:21:06 -0600 From: "Craig Daniel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Poll (not lojbanic, but whorfish) In-Reply-To: <3ccac5f10711180120h22d76144p2975dff7770c9fd7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3ccac5f10711180120h22d76144p2975dff7770c9fd7@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6adb536ba78e5e29 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13945 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: teucer@pobox.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > If you see a plastic bag with two books inside and a pair of shoes, > how much items do you see? And, if your answer is not 1 or 5, list > these items, please. Depends on whether the bag is transparent or not. If so, I'd probably count the books as two items and say five; if not, I'd say I see a bag of books, a left shoe, and a right shoe - three items. Yes, this is true even though the bag is open and I can see the books in it. But if the bag is flat on the ground, with the sides rumpled down, so the books are technically "in" it but "on" would be a much better descriptor, I'd probably call that five. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.