From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Dec 18 12:06:17 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4ihk-0002Kb-NQ for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:06:17 -0800 Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com ([64.233.178.249] helo=hs-out-2122.google.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4ihc-0002KK-VD for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:06:16 -0800 Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 23so4499214hsn.2 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:06:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1SI4LPJ6EVRJbX66t/+0Al9Rsc/GsbYo2zYyk42at4A=; b=s7c9iZOkieWqVu2GZeqAzTbYKKWqjkLdWX+Ty6o/tXx6OsQagEWv+h9ZzItAzdDq7mSbyo34pcQATdZTWuOQiXXpg9Ht3Np9ag0u3Y5+nkJt1oTrdZd3MApLSm81oYoUA1t0e1ZJCkNRFPfnksokSZzcrDiYpkg9G8jtEiLITAE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=piisra760p+gGXWt8ep1oGIe8/kQVnU/L1BupYMSwQZe5A2KtJ7WU35bq28O9/ePbFVs3PqiDeNEL/LOywgo+1CFAltx4MYlsWhK4HOAkxl/pHa903+qd+AqsU69h8TGWkwXijm1eOuL7/JkRZSpqOQHY7W7bu9Cpi6uq8K/eVQ= Received: by 10.142.239.11 with SMTP id m11mr2336499wfh.183.1198008366405; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:06:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.153.4 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:06:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <12d58c160712181206j21b0e806j36b1ff7f8d159b0e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:06:06 -0500 From: "Adam COOPER" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: SVO order In-Reply-To: <4768265E.20304@perpetuum-immobile.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17035_13628480.1198008366395" References: <737b61f30712181039r134bca55v908d10e8be1323be@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560712181117k3d8ee116yab87e6e27d6d6361@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10712181136w76664b5drdd962b2c9f12df97@mail.gmail.com> <47682208.20803@perpetuum-immobile.de> <476825A7.1080602@kli.org> <4768265E.20304@perpetuum-immobile.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14040 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adamgarrigus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_17035_13628480.1198008366395 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Dec 18, 2007 2:58 PM, Timo Paulssen wrote: > Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > > For example, in the sentence "Fred is a doctor," > > the subject is "Fred" and the predicate is "is a doctor" ("a doctor" > > being a predicate nominative, and part of the predicate) whereas the > > verb is "is." > > isn't is only an auxilliary verb anyway? or am i confusing stuff with > german? ;) The verb 'to be' *can *be an auxiliary verb (e.g., "Fred *is *becoming a doctor."), but is the main verb in the sentence above. I'd be dismayed if a similar distinction weren't made in German ("Fritz ist Arzt" / "Fritz ist Arzt geworden"). ------=_Part_17035_13628480.1198008366395 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Dec 18, 2007 2:58 PM, Timo Paulssen <timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote:
Mark E. Shoulson wrote:
> For example, in the sentence "Fred is a doctor,"
> the subject is "Fred" and the predicate is "is a doctor" ("a doctor"
> being a predicate nominative, and part of the predicate) whereas the
> verb is "is."

isn't is only an auxilliary verb anyway? or am i confusing stuff with
german? ;)

The verb 'to be' can be an auxiliary verb (e.g., "Fred is becoming a doctor."), but is the main verb in the sentence above. I'd be dismayed if a similar distinction weren't made in German ("Fritz ist Arzt" / "Fritz ist Arzt geworden").

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