From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Dec 18 12:42:33 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4jGq-0003Kv-5P for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:32 -0800 Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com ([64.233.178.248] helo=hs-out-2122.google.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4jGk-0003KN-4A for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:31 -0800 Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 23so4521114hsn.2 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OHS4xOORUsAVFYEnTMohFmPVB/dg+CsojnP4q/dCLQ8=; b=J7fl08gw7iXkbQmmNFLARAu5aotKmg87q0kSouZ5nOUc6cDEsEhO+gwE1Fv9vMI+eV76xraO9Cdn00NTNxrFTG8DM5EJ9+uizuB9nuD2hF4EWY9yIEH24ogMIYjMdD+j/klLXF4S5OwkNpxTxdQV4TX/Azdo2Z0ze6R6N6aPxQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mhy+hdAk6smoJotsDIKBGH51H9e+OMMojJ5pHEB75lQhmkjoPkLKQju0t2+fbzYSnkXDgkzNvSOWkGlZBqTfErR2PaPTLYgml+cFJfg5l0U9BmRjkR/QVs4sBH0A1ai0ufsh6pDTClgpQK4SbYP6mmxbEdgUlXUOyoA3HXOt6h8= Received: by 10.142.128.6 with SMTP id a6mr921072wfd.138.1198010538685; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.193.17 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <737b61f30712181242i5cfd6707n745406a7ed4b2a57@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:42:18 -0600 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: SVO order In-Reply-To: <4768265E.20304@perpetuum-immobile.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30712181039r134bca55v908d10e8be1323be@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560712181117k3d8ee116yab87e6e27d6d6361@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10712181136w76664b5drdd962b2c9f12df97@mail.gmail.com> <47682208.20803@perpetuum-immobile.de> <476825A7.1080602@kli.org> <4768265E.20304@perpetuum-immobile.de> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14041 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Dec 18, 2007 1:58 PM, Timo Paulssen wrote: > Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > > For example, in the sentence "Fred is a doctor," > > the subject is "Fred" and the predicate is "is a doctor" ("a doctor" > > being a predicate nominative, and part of the predicate) whereas the > > verb is "is." > > isn't is only an auxilliary verb anyway? or am i confusing stuff with > german? ;) In my experience, "auxiliary verb" refers to "have", "had", "was", etc. in compound tense formations, but never to "is", which is called a "linking verb" or some such nonsense. But then the state of grammar education in America really sucks. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.