From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jan 04 00:34:16 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAi0G-0001W4-72 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:34:14 -0800 Received: from squid17.laughingsquid.net ([72.32.93.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAi00-0001VV-Hp for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:34:03 -0800 Received: (qmail 32494 invoked by uid 48); 4 Jan 2008 00:33:51 -0800 Received: from c-75-68-233-37.hsd1.vt.comcast.net (c-75-68-233-37.hsd1.vt.comcast.net [75.68.233.37]) by webmail.ixkey.info (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2008 00:33:51 -0800 Message-ID: <20080104003351.tieyyctiwwk0448o@webmail.ixkey.info> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 00:33:51 -0800 From: mungojelly@ixkey.info To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] gratuitous use of kem, was Re: Lojban-English full dictionary effort- request for assistance References: <702226df0801021635h1e3f1cd1q8e9f848ae1e2a427@mail.gmail.com> <477C38E2.80400@lojban.org> <925d17560801030633s1650f796j741ad63f1f96b4bf@mail.gmail.com> <477CFF5D.8000808@lojban.org> <925d17560801030747x698937aew7be717452b4c808a@mail.gmail.com> <477D4CB5.5060802@lojban.org> <925d17560801031412o5d1abb08q5626d980cdef5994@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560801031412o5d1abb08q5626d980cdef5994@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14081 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mungojelly@ixkey.info Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Quoting Jorge Llambías : > And that's assuming people ever want to use 4-rafsi lujvo. > I think it's much more likely that {se xismalsi}, {te xismalsi} > will be preferred. [.iero'e.ienairu'ero'are'e] I agree, as a general rule, but [zu'unai] if it's possible in Lojban, I want to do it! It reminds me of the way with simple lujvo with a place conversion there's a sort of phantom letter there. Like, you can say "se cusku" or you can say "selcusku".. you can choose a space or an L. :) So in this case of more complex lujvo you can choose a "se" or you can choose a "selkem". Selkem sounds like an awesome tool to have in the toolbox, to me. In fact, I'm thinking, you can throw a "kem" on the beginning of any lujvo and leave it with the same meaning, huh? Or you could open up a bunch of parens like "kemkemkemkemkemcusku" and then they just get magically closed after the "cusku" and do nothing, right? .i mi kemjbokelkepkemjbokei .eire'e mu'o mi'e doi bret. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.