From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jan 07 09:08:11 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JBvSM-0006pz-He for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:08:11 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.156]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JBvSD-0006p7-0x for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:08:10 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so3882950fga.0 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:07:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1y9fxlXClCox5/vjV2p7o/49+DphC7yXWVNYs8OhURI=; b=n3b6jvpNFyamgqzoc5zPBv5bMvahtb0foaoe+CnvGJoSJnujemYnCE+yc8GqkEHdptMNJcL9fPkowjLahVyO8Xz8XL0ATsimqT45HVsK7xWSB3CflXiB0L+GcI3CDvpoxIZ875W6Ov3mdIAYKBZ/dHhq0niNqjBvOKm6P+5MLKE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=a2Hgdc/z2UOANxFPG3YzPwABK1f7WYiKNN/mFf2dBXqzs1v9jCgjWhB4ZgN3iNnbt2qK5ELYrpVl4KS2LLgJ8HDonjCb5JEiIZbGbNAG5Hjlx1NdYL/h1rLlRF7so6Qyq8ew6WN/XNT3PV4EWdhSz88rGxgDc2lN2uwSWkWVgC4= Received: by 10.86.77.5 with SMTP id z5mr7346303fga.41.1199725679077; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:07:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.1.11 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:07:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560801070907s2fec21a6q849890a83919d366@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:07:59 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: preposition whose object is a vocative phrase In-Reply-To: <200801062233.57198.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200801062233.57198.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14088 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 1/7/08, Pierre Abbat wrote: > I noticed [[xingu'e]] on Wikipedia, made a few changes (such as > boldfacing "barat"), and then noticed the following sentence: > > ko'a cu remoi barda gugde fi'o merli tadji lo prenu klani fi'o kansa mu'o le > gigdo prenu gi'e zemoi barda gugde fi'o merli tadji lo tutra klani > > This looks like a malgli xelfanva of something ("remoi barda", for instance, > is supposed to mean "second largest"), but "mu'o" makes no sense at all, and > the writer obviously meant something like "ji'i". I threw the sentence at > jbofi'e and was surprised to see it parse. What does "fi'o kansa mu'o le > gigdo prenu" mean? The vocative is not the object of the preposition, it is rather attached to the selbri {kansa}. The tag is in this case a {tag [ku]} term. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.