From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jan 07 09:23:52 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:23:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JBvhY-0007Qo-7x for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:23:52 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.159]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JBvhT-0007QF-37 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:23:51 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so3885337fga.0 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:23:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=lZ3PhBRNvot7WA7FyRb+XHIs4EozuqgU9pUB9UzUMns=; b=JXd7g3/mYDDXLirgzySMdeqncf75oslcex0oG1DWYI1UcKnf5gaZmTNDWTSYzsuWNwtWjFcEyOILwMt5rNe9Pr4uBRfdY56+q09KP9Jy4zn9utlFq57oizZy0RNB8rLH+tvKzn4Qe4XOv8W3mmj1QD1BWgifINhdxxeoDAmBTEM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I6f0dM8LbJ5kgUp2MOIbPp7BamDsgm8kvH5ljzUiAgmH310ACh61hXyAVI2JT/RTUlBX8kOF6v3oUixhcZJ2dKbTYscESJ4TXlK3m6z2y+RL981GKaaz3v8TbRmUrix/PVI0Dh726dFcWnLg8Lj+EcKO3ryjdpaxlMcRKbUv0BM= Received: by 10.86.50.8 with SMTP id x8mr20330139fgx.30.1199726624888; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.1.11 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:23:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560801070923u1d55008dw89ab5836ea356524@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:23:44 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: experiments in COI, was Re: gratuitous use of kem In-Reply-To: <20080107072043.zkl2i6cjwtck0wcw@webmail.ixkey.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <702226df0801021635h1e3f1cd1q8e9f848ae1e2a427@mail.gmail.com> <477C38E2.80400@lojban.org> <925d17560801030633s1650f796j741ad63f1f96b4bf@mail.gmail.com> <477CFF5D.8000808@lojban.org> <925d17560801030747x698937aew7be717452b4c808a@mail.gmail.com> <477D4CB5.5060802@lojban.org> <925d17560801031412o5d1abb08q5626d980cdef5994@mail.gmail.com> <20080104003351.tieyyctiwwk0448o@webmail.ixkey.info> <925d17560801040631h175b9f48oba5fe4f1408af853@mail.gmail.com> <20080107072043.zkl2i6cjwtck0wcw@webmail.ixkey.info> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14089 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 1/7/08, mungojelly@ixkey.info wrote: > Quoting Jorge Llambías : > > >> mu'o mi'e doi bret. > > > > Does {mi'e doi bret} mean you're talking to yourself? > > Well, it's my impression that "mi'e" always addresses oneself, {mi'e} identifies the speaker/writer, while {doi} identifies the one being addressed. > and > that all of the COI have an elidable "doi", is that not correct? A string of COIs can be completed with a {doi}. But if the string ends in {mi'e}, you would be identifying the addressee with the addresser. > I > like the sound of "mi'e doi cmene" without the pause after "mi'e"-- > often those pauses sound good to me, but in the case of a signature I > often feel like I prefer a more flowing sound. You can use {mi'e la bret}. > mu'o doi do mi'e la bret. -- wait, p.s., do you need a pause before > the "la", there?? No pause is needed before {la}. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.