From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 01 08:57:59 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jgis2-0002fK-Eg for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:57:58 -0700 Received: from web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.124]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jgiro-0002aQ-Rr for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:57:57 -0700 Received: (qmail 18472 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Apr 2008 15:49:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=tpUo9Tk42jIpyjuuVwZvKfRzzRNIAHptOnCxYAID7vQZc5YhHPmeGhzMQibZMExlH/S0mBjXCotwxJrG4kSw0iIXM5v7VL6kznbx57/54owC7t3Wqh3Hs8X8sVfZ98U08k1UMEFuyxFhsq4Jba/Emj2Eqe+31zdXt4sAMxcIrEM=; X-YMail-OSG: oZrH8kwVM1lP6_0CPADOBqdh1eC_rR1LymJDkOWyW41as5xe1xNYA3_6hwQLRkQhCKANluwPXKGGOa8KpcgcwE4grFFgwp3C_GeqPynCB06VDjv2Cz39I822MRFiLJm2gbUXSvPXQeaNpqvJ.YWKDzmwhA-- Received: from [97.91.179.247] by web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:49:39 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/902.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:49:39 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: [lojban] Re: Chinese, English and Spanish etymology of Lojban (was: Re: gismu etymology) To: lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <652003.17658.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14274 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Rising and falling are about where the glide/semivowel/lesser vowel is relative to the root vowel (after = falling, before = rising); the matter of the position of the various parts is dealt with using close (higher) and open (lower). ----- Original Message ---- From: "mls1@rice.edu" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2008 10:31:04 AM Subject: [lojban] Re: Chinese, English and Spanish etymology of Lojban (was: Re: gismu etymology) Quoting mublin : > In the meantime, the reconstructed Chinese, English, and Spanish > source words are available at the following address: > > https://www.dealloc.org/~mublin/ > > -- > mu'o mi'e mublin. > Looking at the part of the page about the other orthography for Alice in Wonderland reminded me of a question I have about diphthongs. How did the terms "rising" and "falling" come about? All the falling diphthongs *end* with high vowels, and all the rising diphthongs listed *begin* with a high vowel. This seems backwards to me, which probably means there is some other very good reasoning which I am not seeing at the moment. I am very curious to know what it is, though. mu'omi'e skaryzgik. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.