From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Apr 06 17:59:59 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JifiJ-0007FM-6E for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:59:59 -0700 Received: from cpe-071-075-215-096.carolina.res.rr.com ([71.75.215.96] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JifiF-0007F1-35 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:59:59 -0700 Received: from chausie (chausie.ixazon.lan [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF78CE2C2 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:18:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Original orthography draft now online for critique Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:18:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <597165.55778.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008301c8980d$ebe96f00$6c8e6d0a@Starlight> In-Reply-To: <008301c8980d$ebe96f00$6c8e6d0a@Starlight> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804061518.25329.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 2.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 22 X-Spam-Bar: ++ X-archive-position: 14317 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sunday 06 April 2008 13:44, Marjorie Scherf wrote: > I don't actually speak Farsi, but one of my friends from high school does, > and she was showing me one time how to write the letters. (The standard, at > least in Iran, is to use Arabic script.) I don't actually remember the > letters, but I do remember that there are dots that differentiate some of > the letters (which in informal handwriting, two dots above can be replaced > with a line, and three dots above can be replaced with a circle) and that > they are put in after the word is written. So those two "issues" are no > worse than a common orthography for a common language. (And if the Arabic > language uses the same features in it's orthography, which I would expect > unless hearing otherwise, one of the word-ancestors of lojban.) Also, Farsi > doesn't even use any letters for half their vowels, so this is actually > clearer. Yes, Arabic does use the same features in its script. The Persian alphabet is the Arabic alphabet plus four letters: pa, which is ba with three dots below instead of one; che, which is jim with three dots below instead of one; ge, which is kaf with the upper stroke doubled; and zha, which is zay with three dots instead of one. (I'm not sure of the letter names.) And IIRR, sin is sometimes written as a straight line with no dots. Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.