From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Apr 14 07:36:39 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JlPnS-0000gN-NA for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:36:38 -0700 Received: from express.cec.wustl.edu ([128.252.21.16]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JlPnK-0000fr-Nq for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:36:38 -0700 Received: from grid.cec.wustl.edu (grid.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.20.97]) by express.cec.wustl.edu (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m3EEaN6c018106; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:36:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: by grid.cec.wustl.edu (Postfix, from userid 29287) id 9135368050; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:36:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grid.cec.wustl.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD0D6804F; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:36:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:36:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam D. Lopresto" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Logflash In-Reply-To: <480369BC.5060506@lojban.org> Message-ID: References: <480369BC.5060506@lojban.org> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (LRH 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14364 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adam@pubcrawler.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: >> In a message dated 4/14/2008 04:22:45 AM Central Daylight Time, lojbab via >> ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: >> >>> But LogFlash is deemed old-fashioned by >>> Lojbanists. >> >> So I've gathered, but it's still the only program I use for vocabulary >> practice. Maybe that explains my lack of profiency in Lojban. > > Thanks for the vote of confidence %^) > > I think the old-fashioned-ness is it being a DOS program without all the > features of newer interfaces (i.e Windows). So far as I know, no one has > come up with, and proven, a better flash card algorithm than the one JCB came > up. I tried it early on, and abandoned it. My problem wasn't so much the DOS aspect (though getting it to run wasn't trivial), but the reliance on keywords. I knew what a tanru *was*, I even knew the place structure, but I couldn't remember that the keyword was "phrase compound". I knew what klama meant, but couldn't remember whether the keyword chose was "come" or "go" (since what it means is of course both). After a few of those (and a few where I couldn't remember the place structure to my satisfaction, but *could* remember the keyword, so it thought I new more than I did), I gave up on it. > Nora and I have occasionally toyed with the idea of rewriting it as an > exercise in learning one of the newer OOP languages. It hasn't worked its > way up the priority list very far because we didn't know anyone cared. -- Adam Lopresto http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/ If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to *buy* her friends? To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.