From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun May 11 10:02:06 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 11 May 2008 10:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JvEw1-0003AL-Oo for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 11 May 2008 10:02:06 -0700 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JvEvl-00030T-Qw for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 11 May 2008 10:02:05 -0700 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1549586fga.0 for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 10:01:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=aD5Of5zo52Jk5/uhVuzbRucazUJGqN6nXytdsSKkRNQ=; b=hZzNISWARFqbb7xfm7OekBy/dDIuL4QZSI2Bu4w4LCUPtglUanZYQAJpRQfFxiN6IH3tCAiwdY2Zzszm+/ZWNbRFZdDg8ArpU4j16VppAMyf590Idu3NZpPcaKcXJ1yEeruaAOO/lQf851YjWniHceGBdzvvy7QTfMgQe58pPq8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GP4uKavrJK/6/mltyXsIUvl6buK1cmkBXFRRhJhvOIOvX+vIPcVT6CxV0IaluTOUPGlm8yo+iswr9TzjOXk3m32VWwI1RKtDKt/rctSObWwacDSTblht2vOeezRJgJnywBTHCHc4hmdpIMUH9HyrwJlMOMruM8PUKl85E/K1+yM= Received: by 10.86.99.9 with SMTP id w9mr12739139fgb.6.1210525304229; Sun, 11 May 2008 10:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.33.18 with HTTP; Sun, 11 May 2008 10:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560805111001m10f366c9wcef9e26a7126ff84@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 14:01:44 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: xu do tergaskanga'e? In-Reply-To: <200805102239.53502.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <200805092242.26486.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560805100708v7e9974adrfaf9c6b7dfc30a41@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560805100951k19390754gf71d35f9bdfd98c1@mail.gmail.com> <200805102239.53502.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14421 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Saturday 10 May 2008 12:51, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Jorge Llambías > wrote: > > pe'i mi ca jimpe .i smuni fa genai lo ganse je kansa be lo te ganse > > gi lo ganse be da joi de bei lo fadni te ganse be da .enai de .i zoi > > gy synesthete gy .i pe'i zo terga'e na mutce sidju .i lo se ganse > > .enai lo te ganse cu steci .i e'u zo jolga'e zo'u ko'a ganse ko'e joi > > ko'i ko'o [ko'u] > > I got totally lost trying to figure out "lo ganse je kansa li'o". {lo ganse je kansa be lo te ganse} = "Observer with a sensor". That's how I first understood {tergaskanga'e}, but then it didn't seem any different from plain {ganse}. {lo ganse be da joi de bei lo fadni te ganse be da .enai de} ="Oberver of X&Y by means of the ordinary sensor for X and not Y" > "jolga'e" > sounds better to me, more succinct. How would you say "Lisko perceives the > first conjugation as red"? I would say {lo pamoi ke selbri klesi cu simlu lo ka xunre kei la liskos}, but if the idea is to use {jolga'e} then I suppose {la liskos cu jolga'e lo pamoi ke selbri klesi lo xunre}. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.