From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed May 28 16:21:06 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 28 May 2008 16:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K1Ux8-0000dA-M7 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:21:06 -0700 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K1Ux3-0000cx-Tt for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:21:06 -0700 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1934031fga.0 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:21:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=uHKWUtG7I7K3YtVzRYGi8XiG66VIAnWjt3nGIskPid8=; b=NwBwYQFOF4AY9HJND6FNOuJ+86ieM3OFT++KrR6SuBntCt0EfJGAZOpNHVx2knuPR5ci4ICe1e6MP0HwItrvDUp4xVGQNrNXgA5jUe7ba91jXlg1NTDmd2ss7c/hcefqyAxYXchqmy9KH0meE9I1OgH22XlFCehqN5RT4lF8dOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qBNPkRYc/T89rd0IkDujMjgYz9lHFR06BPMi1yKS8zfl7zmB6mfvw3AifmnNuzKAldHJffP7b0az13OvWhlXdT+BMT2xjpQ5oNfhz98Mugu47PnllFlPlq3T+KlyNPnaMSQeG4EavntgolbRQ3udl92fy0OPl3AoII8OQoqGq9M= Received: by 10.86.83.2 with SMTP id g2mr9415226fgb.54.1212016860312; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.33.18 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2008 16:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560805281621n26b0aefel90d6631f03d9a5ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:21:00 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Why's there no ka abstraction for nelci? In-Reply-To: <200805271524.57754.eldrikdo@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200805271524.57754.eldrikdo@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14457 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list BTW, here is a (complete, I think) list of the gismu that have place structures like that of {cnino} (not counting : cfipu: x1 confuses/baffles x2 due to property x3. cizra: x1 is strange/weird/deviant/bizarre/odd to x2 in property x3. cnino: x1 is new/unfamiliar/novel to x2 in poperty x3 [by standard x4]. dicra: x1 interrupts/stops/halts x2 due to property x3. fange: x1 is alien/foreign/unfamiliar to x2 in property x3. mansa: x1 satisfies x2 in property x3. melbi: x1 is beautiful/pleasant to x2 in property x3 [by standard x4]. slabu: x1 is old/familiar/well-known to x2 in property x3 [by standard x4]. trina: x1 attracts/appeals to/lures x2 with property x3. vajni: x1 is important/significant to x2 in property x3. xajmi: x1 is funny/comical to x2 in property x3. zdile: x1 is amusing/entertaining to x2 in property x3. zunti: x1 interferes with/hinders/disrupts x2 due to property x3. (Any others?) There are some others that could have had this structure but don't (dirba, fanza, misno, pluka, spaji, xamgu, xlali, ...) but they are harder to search for systematically so I don't attempt to make a complete list. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.