From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat May 31 19:03:31 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 31 May 2008 19:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K2cuw-0005yY-TH for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 19:03:31 -0700 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.237]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K2cuq-0005y6-Iu for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 19:03:30 -0700 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r21so354598wxc.25 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 19:03:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=zHK6yV6gKOOgfTCfu49E7PdMZmfhp1g28KE082n4mHw=; b=ecrrYVMYHX2vRmp7vB4C+y2u6lEIkxKUn1/m9oPbygCUNyu6K+GEbwC9Kb2N9kNWGq798voKgyT5L0jvQOG5iNKord7Qa+TegVVko5tdGHwaul25GoWuNZ3zm4x/0o9ybI6GIHMc52VKDXFO5OFT4acezrDzk3pWl6Mei213VMw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=EoqsO7JxgvS/tqCv4NkmpKfXP6zfiVaEmD6a9Zknqw4c3ToRQlBcj3660GHpJMAaalrXCf7nzB2QTJCYKaTOZ+To0op6JhY9HGiHtynR+JgjxfG0WjLQQIBH5PIOFHGtUnzhLV1dQfMTpRYAEBvkU/TykT4kKQnNwx7cCV8+x+U= Received: by 10.70.80.6 with SMTP id d6mr8928713wxb.53.1212285803041; Sat, 31 May 2008 19:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.1.197? ( [68.81.86.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm1358777hso.11.2008.05.31.19.03.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 31 May 2008 19:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <6F0F7B21-DB94-409D-8D68-35C9E400C614@gmail.com> From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <200806010341.34056.eldrikdo@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Subject: [lojban] Re: Possible error in CLL:14:7:3 Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:03:19 -0400 References: <200806010341.34056.eldrikdo@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14465 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On May 31, 2008, at 9:41 PM, nam wrote: > "mi dotco .ijo mi ricfu .ijo mi nanmu" => "an accurate translation > would be: > Of the three properties --- German-ness, wealth, and manhood -- I > possess > either exactly one or else all three." > > I would say it should be: "I possess either (exactly) none or else > all three" > > If you agree, I'll add this to the CLL-errata wiki-page. No, the translation given is correct. This can be demonstrated with a truth table: d|r|n|d<->r|d<->r<->n -|-|-|-----|--------- T|T|T| T | T T|T|F| T | F T|F|T| F | F T|F|F| F | T F|T|T| F | F F|T|F| F | T F|F|T| T | T F|F|F| T | F Remember that (a) an "iff" statement is true only if both elements are true *or* neither element is true, and (b) Lojban connectives are left- associative. mu'omi'e la'o gy. Minimiscience .gy. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.