From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 10 19:10:12 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Fmu-0006wM-K2 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:10:12 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Fmu-0006wF-Ec for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:10:12 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:10:12 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] [lcs@conlang.org: Conlang film - Comments requested, deadline ASAP] Message-ID: <20080611021012.GJ21120@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-archive-position: 14483 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ----- Forwarded message from Language Creation Society ----- Subject: Conlang film - Comments requested, deadline ASAP From: Language Creation Society To: Donald Boozer , Donald Boozer , kaleissin , John Quijada , David Salo , Matt Pearson , Matt Pearson , Suzette Haden Elgin , Jeffrey Henning , Jeffrey Henning , Mark Rosenfelder , John E Clifford , Arika Okrent , Doug Ball , James Gang , Robin Lee Powell , Sylvia Sotomayor , taliesin the storyteller , Tim Smith , Alex Fink <000024@gmail.com>, Sarah Higley Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:45:56 -0700 O fellow conlangers: This is about the film "Conlang" . We've contacted the producers, and it turns out that that was just a test run of the real thing, which is set to begin production within a couple weeks as a short film. We would like to give them as much support as we can in this. Please see Marta's comments below and the attached script. Your (very prompt) comments, suggestions, jokes, revisions, etc. would be greatly appreciated. We've already given Marta an introduction to the online world of conlanging resources, but do include any more particular references that you feel would be helpful. If you are interested in being on the conference call, please let me know ASAP your availability over the next couple days, and your skype ID (preferably) or phone #. Please do not forward the script, or discuss the details enclosed, in any public way without permission from the film producers; this is copyrighted, pre-production material. If you know anyone else we should contact about this, let me know. Thanks, Sai P.S. Please copypaste this line to your 'to' when replying: baldvinkari@gmail.com, davemaulbeck@gmail.com, mam@swandivefilms.com, lcs@conlang.org --- From: Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:15 PM To: Language Creation Society Cc: baldvinkari@gmail.com, davemaulbeck@gmail.com Hi Everyone, Thank you so much for sending us all those links and for being so generous with your time! Attached please find the latest version of the script. We just had a little meeting and want to tweak a couple of things... but thought we would send it to you guys as is - for your personal, creative feedback. One overall note is that originally the final challenge was the scrabble game and Libby helps "save the day" when Carl creates the word DAIR and they think it is not a word in Sindarin and she corrects them by saying it is and that it is Dorinthian and that everybody knows that Dorinthian is Sindarin. We thought that was a little weak for a final challenge where our protagonist should really rise to the occasion... so we are now trying a version where they perform Shakespeare in a constructed language. This also ties into Carl finally sorta professing his love to Libby. So we are eager to hear your thoughts and open to any suggestions you may have. The idea is to be as clever, entertaining and as funny as possible. So anyway... things to keep in mind: 1. Is this script funny? Do you like the characters? The premise? The challenges? 2. Are the challenges believable? Amusing? Clever? 3. Do you have any suggestions or ideas for other challenges - in particular a really good FINAL challenge? 4. Do you think Carl should like Libby from the beginning - and fantasize about saving her or do you think it would be more interesting for him not to really notice her until the very end when she speaks Uscaniv (Carl's constructed language). 5. Are there any parts of the script that drag? Or just any parts the don't make sense? That is pretty much it. We would love to set up a meeting for tomorrow at the very latest because we are on a time crunch. Is this possible? We can do afternoon or evening. Let us know, we are flexible! Thanks so much! Marta, Baldvin, and Dave ---------- From: *Baldvin Kári Sveinbjörnsson* Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:55 PM To: Language Creation Society Hi Sai I'm Baldvin, the writer/producer of Conlang. Please feel free to forward the script to anyone you think might have helpful comments, but as you mention yourself, time is not on our side. Also, I wanted to correct one small thing from Marta's e-mail: the highest and most noble dialect of Sindarin (arguably) is of course Doriathrin, not "Dorinthian". Tsk, tsk, Marta. What we are really hoping to get from the members of the LCS is the conlanger's perspective on the script. As Marta mentioned in your Skype conversation, we don't want the movie to seem like it came from some ignorant outsider's point of view of conlanging. We want to capture the reality of conlangers, although we depict it in a light, comedic tone. Many thanks for your help and interest! Baldvin Kári Sveinbjörnsson writer/producer - Conlang ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Lojban Reason #17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.