From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jun 20 06:00:55 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K9gEY-0002uP-Iv for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:00:55 -0700 Received: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.19] helo=sdf.lonestar.org ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K9gEO-0002tU-He for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:00:54 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@faeroes.freeshell.org [192.94.73.9]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5KD0csW020816 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:00:39 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.12.8/Submit) id m5KD0cT4010789 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:00:38 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:00:38 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: lojgloss and linebreaks Message-ID: <20080620130036.GA12214@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <737b61f30806192246u28840568pfb92f4a0728c123e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <737b61f30806192246u28840568pfb92f4a0728c123e@mail.gmail.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14524 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list dei li 20 pi'e 06 pi'e 2008 la'o fy. Chris Capel .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > I'm using alice as a source of stuff to translate to test my > parser/glosser. When alice starts a new HTML paragraph, the official > parser doesn't say that it's starting a new lojban paragraph. For > that, NIhO is required. Is a NIhO implied by an HTML paragraph break? > "la nicte cadzu", on the other hand, mostly starts new text paragraphs > with {ni'o}, but there are numerous exceptions which might have some > meaning. (Half a {ni'o}?) > > Conventionally, casually, I think a paragraph break in text (or a > double-linebreak in plain text) does imply a new paragraph, and I'll > probably treat it as such whether or not it's technically accurate. > But I was wondering if the convention had any formal backing. .skamyxatra If by "formal backing" you mean a reference in the CLL, no, I'm pretty sure there isn't one. Lojban always requires explicitness in areas where other languages do not, e.g. paragraph breaks, pauses, and attitude, so I would say that an empty line in formatting, which is not an actual part of the utterance, most certainly would not indicate a new paragraph. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.