From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jun 20 11:16:39 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K9lA7-0008Hi-AG for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:16:39 -0700 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.152]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K9lA2-0008HQ-0E for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:16:39 -0700 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so712485fga.0 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:16:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=g06wKdbK+vL8jv1W8LcH9W4K/umABSIufzB6Td6Gv8U=; b=OdkIw8FbNOrI6BfxLZj5xvsyEGfX3zYmTVhHT+MCx680mA9ZBRhXzyiXx3AjSmWUbL W2P+b7VBgvArlb+6UBQQK4oD+qNXcp2RpAN+BieZzEWGjxUTLLdCm97wfwDBnwVWSRUR oNGRCfmmD/QQeUH1so2EiGu51Xiwkk6rVSN+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=dv90GEPKPn07UbEL5zlu9R1UClb9Di3d8O43M3ut6d1ikJjCiyHhbGddG2ck1Z3OJ8 syNyXY7nUmQQAtFHvP9h12nVeSmDa+KdzavVt943lfU12QvbZcwVFs7RN0mkfTE7lgqh O3kMGZbpCqEc0Zs2A8wQDgBMZWyMPnmPcjtGs= Received: by 10.86.66.19 with SMTP id o19mr4266201fga.62.1213985792294; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.89.11 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560806201116n68c9f37ch71fa982f16e0fd38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:16:32 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: termsets and "equal scope" In-Reply-To: <20080620175754.GB26775@sdf.lonestar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560806200950y1a745756v24b874abf03f38f4@mail.gmail.com> <20080620175754.GB26775@sdf.lonestar.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14533 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 6/20/08, Minimiscience wrote: > > Where is it stated in the CLL that numbers are to be interpreted as "exact"? : << In Lojban, you cannot say ``I own three shoes'' if in fact you own four shoes. Numbers need never be specified, but if they are specified they must be correct. >> > That seems like it would limit speech quite a bit, and I personally find it to > be counter-intuitive and somewhat illogical. Counter-intuitive, yes. I wouldn't say it's illogical, but the definition of "exact" numerical quantifiers is certainly more complex than what it would be otherwise. {N da broda} can be logically expressed as {su'o N da broda .ije su'e N da broda}, rather than just the first part as intuitively expected. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.