From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jun 20 11:17:32 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K9lAy-0008JM-1I for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:17:32 -0700 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.168]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K9lAs-0008J0-D6 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:17:31 -0700 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so1070357wfg.25 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:17:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=QzaD5babF6iy5yvk2+WASJbly61u5yfmOhWoQRa25LI=; b=CIQEURL2qa6Wp/v26Ai703fpHeLI2RLCNnVrr/x/867N+IxsSnGvsLYO6anzwG3oU5 8ka0wsXX4a5jq3jRlZaOOTbbIP9Lj8CoFUyye1DsKfsGofKjmO1IL0Pn+m7s7ALwqJ17 +/21AA2rYWv4FVj7TEjJw6PFfCbR7j9gBxAj4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=b3NLkPHxPc2gToJe/LYk/0+sWfM1vhMTClupq7kh5Ihbwuv1MZcPop31RHYTVu/6IT tYA06Q4mpSNvs94Y4b0R5OPfmpJ13up0ajN6c265h0o8y0jfdyv2CPjgQZwVTjjvRAko xASPKLdp+FF41Kzzf5k0k+17sra8rgwwzYhow= Received: by 10.142.188.4 with SMTP id l4mr1651222wff.183.1213985845571; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.1.3 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8900cc410806201117v31292722n76adcc37388579f1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:17:25 +0400 From: "Dmitry Shintyakov" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: lojgloss and linebreaks In-Reply-To: <737b61f30806201032l77e22206ib61554308a82dbec@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30806192246u28840568pfb92f4a0728c123e@mail.gmail.com> <20080620130036.GA12214@sdf.lonestar.org> <737b61f30806201032l77e22206ib61554308a82dbec@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14534 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: shintyakov@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list >> e.g. paragraph breaks, pauses, and attitude, so I would say >> that an empty line in formatting, which is not an actual part of the utterance, most certainly would not indicate a new paragraph. > > Then what about alice? Lojban is somewhat similar to programming languages, so how about such simile: when programming in C++, it is up to you, whether you ident your code or not. Identation does not affects parsability of code, it only helps human to read it. I think, in Lojban sutuation is mostly the same. Paragraphs are defined by [ni'o], and it is up to author, whether to reflect internal structure of text, properly inserting line breaks, paragraphs, tabulation etc, or not. Or, maybe, author wishes to emphasize some part of (logical) paragraph, using newlines. In other words, I think that logical structure of text, determined by Lojban grammar, should not be mixed with it's formatting. PS Though, speaking of C++, there is u'i Python. (-; Dmitry. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.