From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 24 06:50:25 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KB8ue-0000FP-SE for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:50:25 -0700 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.175]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KB8uW-0000Ep-AR for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:50:24 -0700 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so2559446wfg.25 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:50:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=vuaQ3tdaS0zOidAqoRsBAGVgL0luCKEOokPSlh5U2so=; b=a1mE+XSL6xVC+6Zuc1poCwZ0CwtnDdrXfcZUnKS7/sLU+Y1e6kAOd2QfMOmpu9ijwO yTLinvmyLPd7u43kIlXtMknsDm7m0ACrHLvqadZ3hQADTtkGqiNKDT9KlOw11GE52u4A 0ZKXjlQt4K3BUonZucpoZHh1Zriag4UpWD+Uc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=o5r3AoWkbN7z9qyN6tZgrt3jt5nN/m6cD6TT/3sNcYozXO+0FGywXZqL2na9UgzT2P Ps32nvOE2iOEQJsIIfZ0TSx67LCFQyD1tbxrfh8vaLSZXqUgME9+Ea4249ZTcVAOZAod wiLbIzBQVXXOISFpL1HwuVPW96AVE9EuAW7oQ= Received: by 10.142.218.6 with SMTP id q6mr5571109wfg.186.1214315415274; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.50.4 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c160806240650g471e025dr9e8d4c7f27bc22d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:50:15 -0400 From: "komfo,amonan" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: sentence initial indicators In-Reply-To: <737b61f30806240039m5067fbf3ycc1c962aba036b59@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21473_6498571.1214315415256" References: <737b61f30806240039m5067fbf3ycc1c962aba036b59@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d0817afbe21ff6dc X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14548 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_21473_6498571.1214315415256 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Chris Capel wrote: > The current PEG doesn't match {ni'o ba bo broda}. I wouldn't think > this was a problem, except that it also doesn't match {ni'o i ba bo > broda}. I know la nicte cadzu uses the former somewhere. Is this a > problem? I think you should always be able to attach indicators and > tags to a whole sentence, including using bo, and I can understand > that they aren't allowed on a whole paragraph, but excluding the first > sentence of the paragraph as well (but not the first sentence of the > text, where the text production has a bunch of ad-hoc things to match > initial miscellany) is just silly. I'm guessing the rationale is that it doesn't make sense to tightly bind a sentences across a paragraph/topic boundary. If you want to bind two sentences, the second one is probably not a new topic. Does it match a {ba bo broda} at the start of a text? mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan ------=_Part_21473_6498571.1214315415256 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.com> wrote:
The current PEG doesn't match {ni'o ba bo broda}. I wouldn't think
this was a problem, except that it also doesn't match {ni'o i ba bo
broda}. I know la nicte cadzu uses the former somewhere. Is this a
problem? I think you should always be able to attach indicators and
tags to a whole sentence, including using bo, and I can understand
that they aren't allowed on a whole paragraph, but excluding the first
sentence of the paragraph as well (but not the first sentence of the
text, where the text production has a bunch of ad-hoc things to match
initial miscellany) is just silly.

I'm guessing the rationale is that it doesn't make sense to tightly bind a sentences across a paragraph/topic boundary. If you want to bind two sentences, the second one is probably not a new topic. Does it match a {ba bo broda} at the start of a text?

mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan
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