From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jun 27 10:44:43 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KCI03-0000W6-5x for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:44:43 -0700 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.168]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KCHzy-0000Vv-Ik for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:44:43 -0700 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so575033wfg.25 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:44:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=FnGptYEwVbtBgTS+45hESXs0a/jmflY/XZwOqirI7SI=; b=R6O1xqsX4YOtgXNso9NPJaRvH7t+fd/LP9c2z+2/FEMxvjwDSfDzwry9Rb/GDxdibs mfC2J8hi1XArczAzWdklJ6ImKv97f8ly1WZ1alsw37Uo3viJny8j99MEOwyR93PZSFyi OqezY9iu6c1ZHI3bmOXm2eT+DMVZMr+htgaq8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=kI6BimzeWoLgVNS2jOI+WDbRdy/nVi1J8QoFhuJV0UHcZjlBpt3SojAilUW1TMFxHY NVfeLDpIy8TMGWGh1GQXAvwwV5V2J/mHLa84NB71gbATi5nRWINRMSWjIvqLwz4CSryx En3qKMAGMJBgnwlE0NlqF5avu2TOy1RDEzqp0= Received: by 10.142.246.6 with SMTP id t6mr637064wfh.54.1214588677177; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.50.4 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c160806271044x7db3878ey64e0b181d98f160f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:44:37 -0400 From: "Adam COOPER" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: lo nu mi senva In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6886_10737392.1214588677170" References: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14553 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adamgarrigus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_6886_10737392.1214588677170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:27 PM, james riley wrote: > coi rodo mi'e cmacis > mi melbi senva ca lo purlamcte .i mi senva lo du'u mi co'a prami lo ninmu > tu'e .i lo ninmu goi ny cu melbi mi Not sure whether your placement of {tu'e} is grammatical, but I think the usual practice is to place it after the {.i}. > .i ny nelci mi .i ku'i mi terpa lo nu ny xrani mi lo ka cinmo .i lo nu > terpa cu mukti lo nu mi mi fukpi gau mi .i ku'i lo mi fukpi goi fy na traji > fukpi mu'i lonu terpa lonu cortu I can't make out this last sentence at all. It's grammatical , but I can't grasp the meaning. {traji fukpi} is especially puzzling; do you mean {prane fukpi}? > .i ny nelci fy .i ku'i fy na du mi .i ny na nelci fy You probably want to be more explicit about the change from {ny nelci fy} to {ny na nelci fy}, perhaps by adding a {se ki'u bo} to the second, and/or maybe adding {co'a} and {mo'u} to them respectively. .i ny na nelci mi .i mi traji cortu Perhaps consider marking the exaggeration with {ba'u}. > .i lonu finti fy cu na bandu mi tu'u .i lo se senva na cinsne je'u I think {lo se senva na selcinse je'u} is equivalent, and avoids the repetition of {senva}, which struck me as odd. On the other hand, if I've mistook the meaning, {cinsnse} should probably be defined somewhere. On the third hand, maybe it's a typo for {cinse}. .i ni'o fi la cizra pu preti mi fa lo du'u lo mo ninmu cu mi nelci {.i ni'o} gets rejected by jboski; only {ni'o} is needed there. > .i lo nu mi pensi cu krinu lo nu mi badri .i se ki'u bo no ninmu cu prami > mi .i mi pu nelci lo'i so'o ninmu goi ny .i ki'u ny na nelci mi Probably {ki'u} is a typo for {ku'i} > .i tu'a ny xrani mi lo ka cinmo .i lu'a ny simsa fi lo ka melbi menli .i mi > na jundi lo xadni .i tu'a mi tumla lo nu mi na nelci lo ninmu kei mu'i lo nu > terpa lo nu cortu I'm guessing {tumla} is a typo for something here, but I don't know what. If not, perhaps consider adding {pe'a}. Hope that's helpful (and correct :) ) mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan ------=_Part_6886_10737392.1214588677170 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:27 PM, james riley <jimr1603@gmail.com> wrote:
coi rodo mi'e cmacis
mi melbi senva ca lo purlamcte .i mi senva lo du'u mi co'a prami lo ninmu tu'e .i lo ninmu goi ny cu melbi mi

Not sure whether your placement of {tu'e} is grammatical, but I think the usual practice is to place it after the {.i}.
 
.i ny nelci mi .i ku'i mi terpa lo nu ny xrani mi lo ka cinmo .i lo nu terpa cu mukti lo nu mi mi fukpi gau mi .i ku'i lo mi fukpi goi fy na traji fukpi mu'i lonu terpa lonu cortu

I can't make out this last sentence at all. It's grammatical , but I can't grasp the meaning. {traji fukpi} is especially puzzling; do you mean {prane fukpi}?
 
.i ny nelci fy .i ku'i fy na du mi .i ny na nelci fy

You probably want to be more explicit about the change from {ny nelci fy} to {ny na nelci fy}, perhaps by adding a {se ki'u bo} to the second, and/or maybe adding {co'a} and {mo'u} to them respectively.

.i ny na nelci mi .i mi traji cortu

Perhaps consider marking the exaggeration with {ba'u}.
 
.i lonu finti fy cu na bandu mi tu'u .i lo se senva na cinsne je'u

I think {lo se senva na selcinse je'u} is equivalent, and avoids the repetition of {senva}, which struck me as odd. On the other hand, if I've mistook the meaning, {cinsnse} should probably be defined somewhere. On the third hand, maybe it's a typo for {cinse}.

.i ni'o fi la cizra pu preti mi fa lo du'u lo mo ninmu cu mi nelci

{.i ni'o} gets rejected by jboski; only {ni'o} is needed there.
 
.i lo nu mi pensi cu krinu lo nu mi badri .i se ki'u bo no ninmu cu prami mi .i mi pu nelci lo'i so'o ninmu goi ny .i ki'u ny na nelci mi

Probably {ki'u} is a typo for {ku'i}
 
.i tu'a ny xrani mi lo ka cinmo .i lu'a ny simsa fi lo ka melbi menli .i mi na jundi lo xadni .i tu'a mi tumla lo nu mi na nelci lo ninmu kei mu'i lo nu terpa lo nu cortu

I'm guessing {tumla} is a typo for something here, but I don't know what. If not, perhaps consider adding {pe'a}.

Hope that's helpful (and correct :) )

mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan
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