From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jun 28 10:28:51 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KCeEE-0005EO-PI for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:28:50 -0700 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.175]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KCeE8-0005ED-85 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:28:50 -0700 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so945837wfg.25 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:28:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Pne4iqwzaZRhOBTSIbf98kNUAUn23AQCDDR2m/d5SS0=; b=mQGcc6Y6o2xrSzOgtQIYZcA6S9bRJudZibto3ftd3ZMBEkJVg+veNbjx9fUSJoCDN3 UqpgUdV64G45OVaIvs7eZxdkI1Nsx9UM+G1jBD2Z+bKdRPhqS52gUg3bzmLHC133ZUhZ XbiY3qYnujyKWwBL6b+kxY3bDxgJJuW/GMbAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=nVp3w+AZprwmgmSbp35Yn5ZsxeKPGZgNdfSDVa9YIL/RClZZWSzf9ad8HUELHB87Ld 6FJg24e9gfAHPiMxCOl2v9vE3TgcWSvkt0COklH/aDFgKYVyy3kso2UDulBrqVbkZDv2 G5eZRD6SiJOeoYQqD9W1vuBMc8YTrugY51sD0= Received: by 10.143.42.3 with SMTP id u3mr1064197wfj.148.1214674123320; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.50.21 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f30806281028j3eca857cv22416d06f6fd78a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:28:43 -0500 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: lo nu mi senva In-Reply-To: <12d58c160806280859o6934c11ei179095eac2367a5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30806280214u350b56fcv75cbb23678eb8b03@mail.gmail.com> <12d58c160806280859o6934c11ei179095eac2367a5@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14559 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:59 AM, komfo,amonan wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:14 AM, Chris Capel wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:27 AM, james riley wrote: >> > xrani mi lo ka cinmo .i lo nu terpa cu mukti lo nu mi mi fukpi gau mi .i >> >> I'm not really a jbocre myself, but "ka" doesn't sound quite right >> here. I'd say either {cinmo xrani} or maybe {tu'a cinmo}. > > x3 of {xrani} is defined as a property (ka). Yes, my concern is that {cinmo} in this context isn't really a ka. >> > .i ni'o fi la cizra pu preti mi fa lo du'u lo mo ninmu cu mi nelci >> >> Also, I think you might have meant {fe la cizra}. And I'm not sure >> what exactly you mean by {mo}--who? what sort? > > {lo du'u lo mo ninmu mi cu nelci} -- switch {mi} and {cu} to fix it. Also, ie i ku'i bo na se vajni zoi gy Well, my fix has the same meaning, but anyway... gy Just getting rid of the {cu} works too. > {fi la > cizra} is correct; the x3 of preti is the questioner. {mi djuno lo du'u go'i}. Lojgloss doesn't let me get place meanings wrong very easily. I think the meaning is supposed to be "but the strange question to me is", which would put {la cizra} (which I'm interpreting as {lo cizra}) in x2, question subject, and {mi} in x3, questioner(s), requiring {fe} instead of {fi}. I'm not sure what the interpretation would be with {fi}. I guess you'd have to know what {la cizra} is referring to. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.