From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jun 28 22:47:52 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KCplQ-0001CU-LX for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:47:52 -0700 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.173]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KCplM-0001CK-9f for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:47:52 -0700 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so1130589wfg.25 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:47:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=LsNhT2fqKxbZmJFsgw3XVSayRwP+hmeK+qiirTPG90s=; b=azPQH56XO5+uDtP17vqSwwiOALkoWKbSGzsQIic+h4Yyp03YkIfghc6murSJW/n1Kk D5tMsdLSIIsvEZjIF9QbofJc4LKREthTCBW3A+h01h60wHIIMybBRugSCO0KkoswAhO+ ymfdeXpnlB6OMmYoWdrWM34yj+XACGo9KIlVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=drd0Zm30Xr82KdWj2VA11bgGZYwOtAruWCQjJI0uvXXQk8PIMaYpkO+tiTIDHh4gRy cOmj84+IzT5WFxXM0bMf3Lv0LoWFct1YTFI1X1/RfXZ8DvFm6ddgQj2WVOhZYOoeLFVl 7kgo+TNpOrGaLJTVbk/7+rWscCHTjWHOlp5QA= Received: by 10.143.163.3 with SMTP id q3mr1243181wfo.294.1214718466493; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.50.21 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f30806282247gc923b9em1e0e11b4a0073abc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:47:46 -0500 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] vorme MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14563 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list In alice, there's this use of vorme: i abu cidni sanli gi'e catlu le se vorme noi traji le ka melbi kei lei purdi poi su'oroi se viska Now, I'm wondering here whether {te vorme} wouldn't be better. I know the official gismu definition doesn't specify that x2 is *this* side, and x3 *that* side, but it seems like that's the way it should be, and that the sentence would be clearer with {te vorme}. Is that the way the x2 and x3 are usually used? Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.