From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jul 07 05:37:21 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KFpy5-0007Nn-5T for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:37:21 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.245]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KFpy2-0007Ne-Ah for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:37:21 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so2148779rvf.46 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:37:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mkmxa7Add4Z3WGCyxXi53hj7l/H6V/frZLA5lkFOxMY=; b=DKqI2addyEy0Sshn4lJRndcaZDIC3jIA31W67lpKyUdRVsKo+oYUAauC7mcNNzdyJN 33vqwlbc92tPaoRUsWdlueG1wssHgpjwWciKzPTObL9L3f0MAM3z3PkaK9T2Lt0eJGDM 0QGDul6HOKxkIxcDrkrBfg/M3EmYxX1Tk/Qu8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=w6FCpRhjOxtjS0kOtQkEtGWJ3E0LLXAnPLf0RKoVMU2dP82lpmFuvA9lvZAWTkZMuN +ECKx78l/sURujSH287ayc9P5npFIOv6fPgtykE+JICKlQArQ/9HFGGuJ4lJf4zhzy1S nFlPCwxhhZXgkuNkTK6C1NfVpVRFfXFQU7QdQ= Received: by 10.141.114.15 with SMTP id r15mr2213830rvm.164.1215434234470; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.179.16 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 05:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <96f789a60807070537p24904af4i660d1fc33300ab6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:37:14 -0400 From: "Michael Turniansky" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Book of Esther translation is now on the tiki In-Reply-To: <200807041858.34223.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <96f789a60807041053x3e7ea5ecld49dd5b01596174b@mail.gmail.com> <200807041858.34223.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14590 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Friday 04 July 2008 13:53:12 Michael Turniansky wrote: >> of Esther. It's a difficult read (7000+ words), but I would >> appreciate any feedback people care to give. The translation is from >> the original Hebrew, with some insight gained with help of 5 English >> translations, and 3 Hebrew-English dictionaries. Jewish sources were >> given more weight, and sometimes commentators such as Rashi were used >> to help inform some of the translation. Translation confirms for the >> most part to Hebrew word order. > > (Your message got mangled, with headers put in the body, and ended up in my > inbox instead of the lojban-list folder.) > > May we go ahead and change things if something's wrong? I found an error ("lo > nu abu nuntru" should be "lonu abu turni") and I'd have called her "xadasat" > or "adasat" rather than "xadasas" because the feminine ending was > originally "-t". > I would rather that you ask before you change stuff, since I did work rather hard on keeping the translation as literally true to the Hebrew as possible. That being said, Yes, "lo nu .abu turni" would be the correct. Go ahead and change it. As far as the names go, my choice for final consonant for names that ended in vowels (i.e., most of them ;-) were somewhat arbitrary, with euphony being my highest concern (although in at elast one case, vactic, I chose it with lojban rafsi in mind). Please keep them as is. (Thanks for taking an interest, though). --gejyspa To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.