From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jul 10 06:10:48 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KGvv6-0004eW-Ap for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:10:48 -0700 Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KGvv2-0004eC-F7 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:10:48 -0700 Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so1535989ywm.46 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:10:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=LLbyRCEm3slYRj0oFDMytop8RQELVoe0ZP5AcB+phSk=; b=T+orT5oQ5Xq01F6TOCoCa/zis0TKZIwPDreleSH7bhad0QgF7MKGVxNehHVWIkFMpo L0go252rbXWUYgX1b6v9iHsQgSylWRknZg5Dh67PNKi51fAMYhzPBsCPgoOC4HmeAqku tJ52KzZ1bn+JETM5eYQKkmWjpRccGixfazwKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=VPOd/xMb2TqVoYwkSXcmdw0DtwoxKNHJRhJFhpctkfFyzlOYcQo69y8qK7XvWX2uZL tcCuE/P2FNpm3OD8mgV405FJuj0lI+TFucmYoQbygsR3IeAkFK9H6zoJ1JKvx6uN++I9 K8A5U8cCrPGU9IQLlZfBzeTYH+BR4+OBy9YYU= Received: by 10.103.175.9 with SMTP id c9mr4822931mup.15.1215695434287; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.240.12 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3ccac5f10807100610o20540cte45148370b69e4a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:10:34 +0400 From: "Cyril Slobin" To: "Lojban List" Subject: [lojban] Attitudionals in a "la" clause MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7153ee01e89cde69 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14593 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cyril@slobin.pp.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list coi rodo If the selbri after "la" contains an attitudional, is it concerned as a part of a name, or as an attitude of a speaker? Example: {la oi cortu cu klama} Is it a claim about the person named "oi cortu" or a claim about the person named "cortu", and expression of a pain that speaker feels while saying this? P.S. This message is also a test for my another email subscription. -- http://slobin.pp.ru/ `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, `it means just what I choose it to mean' To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.