From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Aug 21 05:49:49 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KW9bo-0005je-5S for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:49:49 -0700 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KW9bh-0005jE-Hp for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:49:48 -0700 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so569568fga.0 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:49:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=jNpUj/epJG8o7Do+Jx5F7kkc/PRIf16fRUY+R2oUqrQ=; b=tloLQO8UbiBiNfLUzrXV0gwzzG4fL6Z5cw2JvrMF5Ur4aGjz0ZVCJgV9cITMefs9/H t2gfBFSBx3pClRX9xVy60BE3kL5XgwJM//0eNthpXyMyQmRpD/SCkf8ZOwhNf0JNrkxe WJF63yn7EtVLJPDlgl8iM1PJpR+CjStS+DJTQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=yBwRY2DnEAaxZliKRMRywmMcdmTOPyL0HaKm0UWjDtGP9vndlvo9NDbU4Zu6hu0VAe tY3t/4GnBm1hZVUo85de7/cWMOBzqoM/Mykgc2TTqpKeBNlTGuQe6kDTcVsxfo0FDVps LnaBU+xrghTzymWfqXlFsLdBFk65hQCt6BQjE= Received: by 10.86.92.7 with SMTP id p7mr1097277fgb.8.1219322979484; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.89.11 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560808210549l13113c65y77bdf9ddf537bc1f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:49:39 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: question for speakers of German In-Reply-To: <737b61f30808201950k721481d8x9eb92707fd0a70f6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560808201144s3ab0ea85xb979d13377744e84@mail.gmail.com> <48AC6BE6.6070202@devbraindump.de> <737b61f30808201950k721481d8x9eb92707fd0a70f6@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14655 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 8/20/08, Chris Capel wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 14:09, Florian Larysch wrote: > > Phoneme-wise it would be something like carLOTYNctrase. (Dropping > > the e seems more appropriate to me than adding a consonant) ki'e florolf > In Lojban, how would one pronounce carLOTyncras? Would it be > acceptable to pronounce the 't' as a glottal stop, as in English, or > is it required to pronounce the plosive? It has to be a plosive, else it becomes {carlo.ynctras}, though that can't be parsed as Lojban words if the o is stressed, and with gismu stress for {carlo} it would still be ungrammatical because a cmevla can't follow a gismu). mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.