From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Aug 21 10:26:57 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KWDw0-0000ov-3z for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:26:57 -0700 Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.6]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KWDvw-0000oT-DZ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:26:55 -0700 Received: from Thirderivative@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id d.cf3.3d8d632e (37166) for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.140]) by cia-ma04.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA045-912e48ada550121; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:26:40 -0400 Received: from webmail-ne16 (webmail-ne16.sim.aol.com [207.200.67.16]) by smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.12) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA018-5c4a48ada54d85; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:26:37 -0400 References: To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: New, more Lojbanic Lojban orthography Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:26:37 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 76.8.194.230 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: thirderivative@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CAD1CA339CF138_A34_CB56_webmail-ne16.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38491-STANDARD Received: from 76.8.194.230 by webmail-ne16.sysops.aol.com (207.200.67.16) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:26:37 -0400 Message-Id: <8CAD1CA33530798-A34-66CA@webmail-ne16.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Score: 1.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 11 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 14657 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: thirderivative@aol.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ----------MB_8CAD1CA339CF138_A34_CB56_webmail-ne16.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" i have been waiting long for the upgrade to your system. i like it. it looks good and unique and potentially usable. i would not learn it until becoming fluent in lojban, but would happily learn it (or its modified version if there be) when i become more fluent. very well done! -seryf -----Original Message----- From: LakMeer Kravid To: lojban-list@lojban.org Sent: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 3:53 am Subject: [lojban] New, more Lojbanic Lojban orthography .i coi ro jbopre Those of you who aren't interested in pursuing this line of investigation will be sick of hearing my bleating voice by now, and for that I apologise. Others, however, may be interested to hear I've been working hard since srilermorna, and I think I'm on to somthing. Although srilermorna was kind of successful in terms of the goals I set for it - mainly prettiness - someone valuably pointed out that it really offered nothing above what latin does in terms of suitability for writing Lojban - essentially, it is a character map onto latin. I set about creating a system for which the goal was lojbanicness - it must offer features which correspond to the morphology and philosophy of lojban, while remaining legible and versatile. I've ended up with a vowel-diacritic system with a strong resemblance to the proposals to use Tengwar, but with a few key differences which allow some optimisation, better readibility and (hopefully) some uniquely lojban feel. Criticism is welcome and depended upon - either on this list, at the tiki page for the current revision, or at the thread in the Ideas board on jbotcan. All suggestions will be documented at any or all of these places. There is no name yet. Suggestions welcome. Tiki: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Lakmir.%27s%20Vowel-Diacritic%20Orthography jbotcan: http://www.jbotcan.org/ideas/res/207.html .i ki'e rodo jundi mu'o Also, yeah, i realise i forgot to put "hungry" in the english for the last example. Cant be bothered changing it. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. ----------MB_8CAD1CA339CF138_A34_CB56_webmail-ne16.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
i have been waiting long for the upgrade to your system. i like it. it looks good and unique and potentially usable. i would not learn it until becoming fluent in lojban, but would happily learn it (or its modified version if there be) when i become more fluent. very well done!

-seryf


-----Original Message-----
From: LakMeer Kravid <lakmeerkravid@gmail.com>
To: lojban-list@lojban.org
Sent: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 3:53 am
Subject: [lojban] New, more Lojbanic Lojban orthography

.i coi ro jbopre



Those of you who aren't interested in pursuing this line of

investigation will be sick of hearing my bleating voice by now, and

for that I apologise. Others, however, may be interested to hear I've

been working hard since srilermorna, and I think I'm on to somthing.



Although srilermorna was kind of successful in terms of the goals I

set for it - mainly prettiness - someone valuably pointed out that it

really offered nothing above what latin does in terms of suitability

for writing Lojban - essentially, it is a character map onto latin.



I set about creating a system for which the goal was lojbanicness - it

must offer features which correspond to the morphology and philosophy

of lojban, while remaining legible and versatile.



I've ended up with a vowel-diacritic system with a strong resemblance

to the proposals to use Tengwar, but with a few key differences which

allow some optimisation, better readibility and (hopefully) some

uniquely lojban feel.



Criticism is welcome and depended upon - either on this list, at the

tiki page for the current revision, or at the thread in the Ideas

board on jbotcan. All suggestions will be documented at any or all of

these places.



There is no name yet. Suggestions welcome.



Tiki: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Lakmir.%27s%20Vowel-Diacritic%20Orthography

jbotcan: http://www.jbotcan.org/ideas/res/207.html



.i ki'e rodo jundi

mu'o



Also, yeah, i realise i forgot to put "hungry" in the english for the

last example. Cant be bothered changing it.





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