From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Aug 29 16:13:33 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KZD9p-0002Hv-7i for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:13:33 -0700 Received: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.19] helo=sdf.lonestar.org ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KZD9l-0002Ho-Kf for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:13:33 -0700 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:jwodder@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7TNDQm7003226 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:26 GMT Received: (from jwodder@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.12.8/Submit) id m7TNDQf3026951 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:26 GMT Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:13:26 +0000 From: Minimiscience To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: 2 vowels I'm missing Message-ID: <20080829231324.GA1945@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <8CAD841C4B3A2C5-B24-1F7E@mblk-d14.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8CAD841C4B3A2C5-B24-1F7E@mblk-d14.sysops.aol.com> Organization: SDF Public Access UNIX System User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14686 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: minimiscience@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list de'i li 29 pi'e 08 pi'e 2008 la'o fy. thirderivative@aol.com .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > or you could have it yncys.ztran. depends on you. .skamyxatra No, he can't. 'z' is a voiced consonant, and 't' is unvoiced. "ztran." would have to be changed to "stran.", "zdran.", or "zytran." in order to be an acceptable Lojban word. Even if he chose one of the first two, any 'i' sound between the first two consonants would be nonstandard and would only be used by those having trouble with the cluster. la'o fy. thirderivative@aol.com .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra. > you may want to capitalize the ZEtran if that is what receives the emphasis. .skamyxatra If he writes it as "zetran.", the emphasis will already go on the "ze" by default. mu'omi'e la'o gy. Minimiscience .gy. -- no zo mi nenri zo bende To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.