From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Sep 13 23:43:01 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KelK1-0007Ok-Jr for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:43:01 -0700 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.152]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KelJy-0007OV-Rj for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:43:01 -0700 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so503898yxp.46 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:42:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zzcW43wbtNTLzhS4JEYl28ZF4cWKGmVpjL/Hsr/UFig=; b=EH3quJIAUzy/aAuQtPvfKATuoc0SuSEpe21FXEfeRMGcx2W/rPRovfL7Ni6Xm+/llU jVgiBHfXtqg4OftDyDZgzwr+QXtv6vz72zx2JXXrc5Cba4BfIee5+nFpHl7sCz8LSg8H 4u/4Mk7g6op2Z9z5PA+OPa0NCk0aNSlsGhlsw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wt+XX6uRqLSla65xZ87+FO7RDCL2y2udiuZrdli9LhCYQhuxQhib40lpTwrMXMo74o A2Q6omV6xoqxcWSECOKpHZG/NhB2Dyz/xBRiq99ks103oMQkUd93zOtPJkYgkhpZXg8m UNCF1N8RDZlnSgCB0EL5ghCdIcg1BB2Oc3PvE= Received: by 10.90.100.20 with SMTP id x20mr7684862agb.40.1221374577480; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.71.14 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5b0248170809132342x2a09170eufca39c1cebe2256d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:42:57 +0900 From: "Seo Sanghyeon" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: How many fluent speakrs of Lojban are there? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14741 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sanxiyn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list 2008/9/14 Brett Williams : > Define "fluent". There are perhaps a few dozen people who can have a > comfortable conversation in Lojban. None of them are as fluent in Lojban as > they are in their native languages, but I don't think that's even possible-- > no one knows the Lojban words for "carburetor" or "lemon merengue pie", > for instance, because there aren't any. What's wrong with using fu'ivla for "carburetor" for example? Many of world's language (for example, Japanese) is full of loan words for modern stuffs. -- Seo Sanghyeon To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.