From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Sep 17 12:39:01 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kg2rd-0005o5-7u for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:39:01 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f19.google.com ([209.85.217.19]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kg2rZ-0005nY-Pw for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:39:00 -0700 Received: by gxk12 with SMTP id 12so28698860gxk.10 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:38:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=REfVpMCCuxAJkaVPEvrkuBrAPiF9uhIG5P1IwoOTp/w=; b=KWv8GxFUeWqoCkasUsLnSX4XeLf8nJfrHXUDp9z6MHmWu58sfUeI6gV5abxHY+ejOA zN+fF6maZ29XGS4p8zWXLORF3B1faWYvhxpHXJ1QlM49beYRaNAg7CZg98h7B4x3FHCN gkekt6EOzFHwqjcBWBq0y8XoE/53UdGU31aK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=noY2Xs7nNXLjc9uSa1eqByDeJd6wJyoREjCjMVw0qp9EuNbSMrTnb9eVYLO6mx01zC wVSAByzSO53Evi8ooTfpnO35cQUVaF0jjgs0noG3DrbmPDxf+rYxPlAMyPo8YyE2Ci69 /v+KJiSDcGLXCK7rackriytRQCns1m/ZmbuGw= Received: by 10.142.213.10 with SMTP id l10mr1025243wfg.197.1221680331076; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.51.12 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:38:51 -0400 From: "Brett Williams" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: How many fluent speakrs of Lojban are there? In-Reply-To: <737b61f30809161756x2b7d69d8l5874e9b6b36e2e66@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14590_31743046.1221680331063" References: <975a94850809132244tdf5f00fm941ba3703635da34@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30809161756x2b7d69d8l5874e9b6b36e2e66@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14768 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mungojelly@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_14590_31743046.1221680331063 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 9/16/08, Chris Capel wrote: > > Art doesn't attract very many people, because > there's plenty of it in other languages. True enough, but I personally think that Lojban is an exceptional language for art. It's so flexible, there's so many options for things. I think we could attract people just for Lojban's artistic qualities, if we develop and advertise them more. .i la .lojban. cu xamgu pe'i jai larcu .i cinri valsi bo tarmi .i cinri valsi bo sance .i cinri cizra gerna bo stura What other situations does Lojban have a high instrumental value in? > I think that we could make Lojban unusually suited for any particular purpose, just by focusing and making a lot of lujvo and getting the language comfortable with a topic. If we choose any topic and establish a vocabulary around it, we'll head slowly towards the point where we can truly say that Lojban is a far superior language for some specific set of concepts. One that comes to mind as a no-brainer is computer programming. Obviously we have enough programmers in the community, and the bar to entering Lojban is always going to be lower for programmers, so it makes sense on the face of it. Donri and I have also been discussing a Lojbanic anarchists' association-- any other anarchists around? :) One interest many of us share (ka'u) is liking the Dvorak keyboard, but I'm not sure that needs much vocabulary. I guess it could use a word or two, though! Is there even a word yet for "Dvorak keyboard"? .i .ei zasti mu'o mi'e se ckiku ------=_Part_14590_31743046.1221680331063 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 9/16/08, Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.com> wrote:
Art doesn't attract very many people, because
there's plenty of it in other languages.


True enough, but I personally think that Lojban is an exceptional language for art.  It's so flexible, there's so many options for things.  I think we could attract people just for Lojban's artistic qualities, if we develop and advertise them more.  .i la .lojban. cu xamgu pe'i jai larcu .i cinri valsi bo tarmi .i cinri valsi bo sance .i cinri cizra gerna bo stura
 

What other situations does Lojban have a high instrumental value in?


I think that we could make Lojban unusually suited for any particular purpose, just by focusing and making a lot of lujvo and getting the language comfortable with a topic.  If we choose any topic and establish a vocabulary around it, we'll head slowly towards the point where we can truly say that Lojban is a far superior language for some specific set of concepts.
 
One that comes to mind as a no-brainer is computer programming.  Obviously we have enough programmers in the community, and the bar to entering Lojban is always going to be lower for programmers, so it makes sense on the face of it.
 
Donri and I have also been discussing a Lojbanic anarchists' association-- any other anarchists around? :)
 
One interest many of us share (ka'u) is liking the Dvorak keyboard, but I'm not sure that needs much vocabulary.  I guess it could use a word or two, though!  Is there even a word yet for "Dvorak keyboard"?  .i .ei zasti
 
mu'o mi'e se ckiku

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