From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Sep 28 21:00:09 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kk9vd-0007Dp-Rc for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:00:09 -0700 Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kk9va-0007BH-Kt for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:00:09 -0700 Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so303495yxp.46 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:00:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rzr0TD+3yKKEL0Wa5f/INDFvh+zZ9m4BRmOjI/Brwmw=; b=PgD9LoehA7Qlh3OPrU9H803E/VmvedZts0oG4OyDJk26Pkr7UACYrmpJwD2cNcKJMw XjTW+JY5WD/wKU41+w4TSKqJ163lgoEQxJ1Trflu62H9lQtAKwXZiGXS31bdnS63ikJI wEcknQPu3+qEUvWtP5nqv6pNieG5seITTHkyY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=QiGJIPG8zO9g7H2IVSllMVcQrTGzoB1ZRxdIWKpTyUnqQdlFwC4qHyM4mLTghLO89W mEB4dkun5OliGgCT0sKQIJePPb+tgMaSlsNmkiVqNwJFQafx02t8W6cljZip+tUxFr1K caqDBkQseMWJeyF/SyB32FYbhQVqmHgUXOMb4= Received: by 10.90.92.10 with SMTP id p10mr4987728agb.43.1222660805028; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.71.14 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5b0248170809282100t60f07daag83eea3eae07a8ffd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:00:04 +0900 From: "Seo Sanghyeon" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: eastern languages In-Reply-To: <737b61f30809281608q6eb27b84y80de3a442e56761@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30809281608q6eb27b84y80de3a442e56761@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14808 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sanxiyn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list 2008/9/29 Chris Capel : > I mean, Japan's othography system(s) scares me to death, but maybe a > cumbersome orthography doesn't bug a logically-minded person as much > as a cumbersome grammar does. And other eastern countries have > reformed orthographies or (maybe?) haven't used ideographs in > centuries or more. But I don't really know much about those. I am a native Korean speaker, and can do some Japanese. Japanese orthography sucks. No question. In general ideographs suck. Thankfully, Korean orthography does not suck. It is a beautiful work. But if you are asking about languages rather than orthographies, well, I found all languages I learned to be very idiosyncratic, although grammatical genders especially suck. -- Seo Sanghyeon To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.