From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Oct 02 17:01:36 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KlY6y-0001B5-9Z for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:01:36 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f19.google.com ([209.85.217.19]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KlY6u-0001AZ-Go for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:01:36 -0700 Received: by gxk12 with SMTP id 12so2280066gxk.10 for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:01:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=3NBMKE6hmbrH99k6v+up2c7wYwxRill0hxCHdtx2alY=; b=x+njyMtEdaALVboTxmKr0izKtARjPuNgv6ToaGgoeiQkfXETACQcFPo+U5/Sho4yXE xjO4dAGApAjzlf9GDCdbVsBSpaVl+0hKAi8ZmsjP5/Frqn4upNIdNsNzlYCR1XuENZLv ewbzGBJAwVuDqXNN4GpNBNzhRg1fXNjp+Jip8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=R8gn1cAzNZQbB5MuzXtfDQu+ne9u63XuevuHDHIxH+wBw4IeXoTAdvwAXgXgGUtXvw SEo7PcfwNXImTZ6n3vuN135Spvr+sIqD8hpDwZznq2B78aAab+rs+HBHYk41Uia35Bkd VJDzQjz8WeQIhyymhFS2gRQ3TQgVLWbRCAIWw= Received: by 10.150.139.15 with SMTP id m15mr690994ybd.135.1222992086409; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.199.20 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f30810021701v671de698yd98f203710410ca0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:01:26 -0500 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: New, more Lojbanic Lojban orthography In-Reply-To: <200810030151.39383.eldrikdo@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200810030151.39383.eldrikdo@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14819 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 18:51, Roman Naumann wrote: > I agree. Lojban in the Latin alphabet looks ugly, like some bash programming > language somewhat. Oh my. I don't think Lojban in latin looks wonderful or anything, but seriously? Compared to bash, Lojban in latin is like a Van Gogh painting. > In addition to the beauty aspect, I find it very annoying that I got used to > certain sounds of latin glyphs. I habitually confuse the "s" with the "z", The sounds are the same in Lojban as in English, so I never had a problem, but... > as they are that that way in German, or the "c" and "k".. I learned probably a couple hundred words in Lojban before realizing that "c" wasn't pronounced like either "k" or "s". It took me a *long* time to unlearn all that. You have to unlearn the individual words separately, too. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.