From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Oct 08 16:37:08 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kniaa-0003GW-KA for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:37:08 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.250]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KniaX-0003GH-Pg for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:37:08 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so4055114rvf.46 for ; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:37:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=3gOgRotJYNv52Q6906u+ORkV6tUx4I5cDE8txm7qz1Y=; b=k7oKISrG0irlrURWdafrG62Vi70OponG7bTE5ARemHpFUCrfJjRAPJuYBvAe49jhN0 vFdwVqfUfTzwCM5usb2Bni1jTRtfQJXgjc2QBLb6/rjtgv0AeaByEl527uaZR6VQh7N1 A6RXBBjvUyJcgIQGpIliD17/K9mFYHNz5+Z6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=HqOtfPWa3VfansFOyAdR8fC8H9VF4DeX0xIDd/H46Lfot32g7m0l28hlJ0StGsz5bY qJosXprBITq+u2tch30fD4MRKs5zEtCzxmhu7YkVQ5bfaLF3gKyMX5zLBmstwk7pyPi5 IVOmC9Q6DgJEQf0qLHkksLskMb3p9wwGbZCes= Received: by 10.141.141.3 with SMTP id t3mr5610446rvn.124.1223509024944; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.141.20 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 16:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:37:04 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Second Life In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48EBDD5A.10909@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14830 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I was a founding member of the Lojban Second Life community. Currently, I no longer have a computer good enough to run Second Life, which is why I don't go there anymore. Plus I learned Blender and found out it's not that much more complex than Second Life's building features. -Eppcott On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Brett Williams wrote: > > > On 10/7/08, Robert LeChevalier wrote: >> >> I would like to respond (and to do so accurately). Can people summarize >> the various opportunities for Lojban conversation on line, via text and/or >> voice. And specifically what is the status of using Second Life for Lojban >> conversation among the various options. How many are involved, and how >> often? > > > > The active forums now that I know of are IRC, these mailing lists, > Wikipedia and Jbotcan. Everything else is ignored at the moment, as far as > I know. Jbopre seem to have a collective feeling that it's better to > concentrate the community in as few places as possible, leading to a > conservative attitude to any new forum. New IRC channels often arouse > criticism for spreading the IRC conversation too thin, and even Jbotcan > faced a lot of skepticism at first. So the negative side of that is that > you won't find Lojban active in a huge variety of different places around > the net, but the positive side is that you can visit IRC and encounter a > Lojbanist at any time of the day or night because that's where everyone > goes. > > One idea I had for how to spread Lojban conversation to more places at once > is to start forums focused on particular topics. Lojban seems to me like > it's at the point where we can use it to communicate actual information > about various subjects, instead of just gathering around the language and > poking at it. I bet it would be more effective inviting Lojbanists to a > chat on Second Life (for example) if it was a meeting for some particular > purpose. People are already fulfilling their generic desire to speak with > other people in Lojban, so they're probably not going to bother with > exploring somewhere they're less familiar with, just to have conversations > in Lojban with other Lojbanists they already know! > > mu'o mi'e se ckiku > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.