From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Oct 11 12:24:04 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kok4K-0003nl-9p for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:24:04 -0700 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kok4H-0003na-8S for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:24:04 -0700 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so958810mue.6 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:23:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=GYgWfT8dvLfdYAOFx5WqnXq/ITkiYAMgRaN8gEv4xpg=; b=ZkY5HnfLsOsJamkeOxr7ADA35CyJyt1Hj54jUnGf06SYqvJ48gXNc9yETCUTRfpfqa a/MrVWRgoqv5IC2+6u7fQkBL183Om7qJDYchyV9C445KQgF54O3P/3+Ke7iH5yLZKSia to2LeGXE6w4ImtNPKMw5JrGggUw9XM2lpWiR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=gaQZSWntsExtZqu96BuBFaK3KDUBjy93xCWIW3GyaB+kMIk6n8IGtYYVzd18pCePtw hZQ8C3U1QO4bryMbcj1l/2/6cif/yIgI4AJ0iGwTH2pYIxS6DgDqoU276em8WKQK2UZA JlFShq4LezxrT44wA3+YccFH/xEP4YgXD89qM= Received: by 10.103.215.4 with SMTP id s4mr2219893muq.13.1223753039747; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.134.6 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3ccac5f10810111223r25cf249n14b15402f4c38f2c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:23:59 +0400 From: "Cyril Slobin" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Second Life In-Reply-To: <3ccac5f10810071600k7f21ee0btd61e80406590b649@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48EBDD5A.10909@lojban.org> <3ccac5f10810071600k7f21ee0btd61e80406590b649@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 86abbf6d50a925cc X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14838 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cyril@slobin.pp.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 10/8/08, Cyril Slobin wrote: > 1) "Loglan Conversation Group" includes six people now (counting > myself). As far as I know, two or three of them do really meet once a > week for a hour (typically Sat or Sun). For some silly circumstances I > have failed to attend last two meetings, so I'll try to join them at > the next weekend. ("Last two" because I have learned about this group > two weeks ago only). I have just returned form Loglan meeting in SL. Five people were there, including myself. As far as I know, this is the highest number so far. Real chat in Loglan (mostly simple sentences) for a hour. I have never learned TLI Loglan, but I can understand maybe one sentence of three or four: Loglan prims are much easier to guess than Lojban gismu (but only if you speak English, of course), and mapping from Loglan short words to Lojban cmavo is easy to catch from the similar sentence structure. I consider the following note from one of the participants to be valuable enough to quote: ((I like practicing Loglan in the SL env because one can talkg about things in th environment)) ((in a chat channel your shared reality is just words)) To Dmirty: if you want to contact me in SL, try to send an IM to Cyril Svoboda. Alas I have no permanent hours of being inworld. -- http://slobin.pp.ru/ `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, `it means just what I choose it to mean' To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.