From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Oct 20 10:29:43 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KryZb-00050S-Fs for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:29:43 -0700 Received: from mail-gx0-f19.google.com ([209.85.217.19]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KryZY-0004zW-M4 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:29:43 -0700 Received: by gxk12 with SMTP id 12so3995861gxk.10 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:29:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=MDwbcDqc+8+zeeQUVkr7j/AB1t3Fn6S8nM8v+pmlnHw=; b=keoTE1I0CY7kiRm6kcerpJ8VVeyaj9FrTdVMkzGMVcdFg/lQVFB69D1WDRr5xCYdTe 6LB+TX2rps3ok6ZNoAn1ZRQVUtwarh+QXnkDXKHKFuYJGgbSxK5DX3h6W4Y1UOrfl9lv VZmHMe5DyaMlqRnB2g34q9R9aThuEjdD1EJ74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=dgkRURBH30z+JPAwdYDQ7djN2vBeToehJoi8Rgc/22wq5BevuXGvlNZ5+/GYxth3eZ Za7CkVkDS81oX1zFj95ATC6NrlZAYfqVuASr6wAqG2kuLHlGwKIiFguJOl8lwnbDKk12 /ItWas1OCYbIXNAgFNe0WXzJ1zx089OQcyE24= Received: by 10.143.28.8 with SMTP id f8mr3192730wfj.270.1224523773833; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.139.12 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <96f789a60810201029g30e27cdbs57e6f1a322501202@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:29:33 -0400 From: "Michael Turniansky" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: converted gismu In-Reply-To: <8CAFE95E18C526A-8C8-DD5@FWM-M32.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081017172753.GG3286@digitalkingdom.org> <8CAFE95E18C526A-8C8-DD5@FWM-M32.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / Noralujv (http://www.lojban.org/publications/draft-dictionary/NORALUJV.txt) does have all the "converted forms" down at the end, although some of their English glosses are a bit cryptic. Of course, the real issue is that some of those words really don't have a simple gloss, since they depend on them being part of a whole structure. For a simple example, selxa'e is a "something with hand(s)". --gejyspa X-archive-position: 14859 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:35 PM, wrote: > might i ask a question? > i am currently making myself familiar with individual gismu as much as i > can. > i am attempting to convert the definitions into all of their respective > conversions, as best my understanding of the words allow > i am also striving to define clearly the use of those gismu in all converted > forms to use as sumti > while doing this is greatly beneficial to my understanding, do you have any > tips on this, or is there a source where i can find the specified meaning of > words like "selcpi"? > i found that jbovlaste is somewhat reliable for this, though not always as > clear for an english speaker to use easily. that being the case, why doesnt > jbovlaste add all of those lujvo and other words into the pdf when you > create a dictionary, as that is the real value of the system to me? >\ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.