From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Nov 02 01:33:20 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KwYOe-0001nB-DO for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:33:20 -0700 Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KwYOS-0001mj-9p for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:33:20 -0700 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 18so2519047fks.2 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:33:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=/3kecti68rU932cNmExSIoSoNJWofm3aLTYPPhD/7Y4=; b=varIC3aPtKzUlsgjPxnY8ko+mlie1eqd35tkflU/a43nQqVVEvR+yIF0z/T1gQgF5S AtKk+DXWq45f4LADplUdS0BO8DA+PT0spSx9SE+/JiAcRoxwtNOh7F+DXdEvj5ZRQaK4 wC1RCUQI75sY1hZ52HMl4YbIBUVwNZhOAt5/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=mjlYeAfI7i6QxnUfze9b0nOWEyO7JCTtXgxUIp4vZX6dn1J9XVUGbfNZG/twpq0irm t/nvRxqWVohFP7xCjbf/L+/E+cDRJbGSJR2NmU3tyvcLqNQO1UtUZuTW7f2itfKU2SAi mEvjAlSmivSFgSzkdyT0hQzaNKEZHWcS4t1Jw= Received: by 10.103.207.11 with SMTP id j11mr6475561muq.17.1225614780963; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.138.11 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3ccac5f10811020133s3f9b6969odea7872130860e2a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:33:00 +0300 From: "Cyril Slobin" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: how to say "call"? In-Reply-To: <200811012350.00020.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200811012350.00020.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 52f8fde654645fc1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14899 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cyril@slobin.pp.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 11/2/08, Pierre Abbat wrote: > There was just a discussion on IRC about reversing circumcision. > I quoted 1 Cor. 7:18 from memory (getting one letter wrong), then > translated it into Lojban for the benefit of na'ebo la nitcion., > but got totally messed up trying to say "called". Any suggestions? > The only sense I know how to say "called" in is te cmene. This remembers me about another good point: 1 Cor. 7:23 "Ye were bought with a price" Obvious translation is: {do se vecnu fo lo jdima} But this can be translated back also as: "You were sold with a price" Quite different for a native natlanger! -- http://slobin.pp.ru/ `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, `it means just what I choose it to mean' To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.