From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Nov 02 09:04:35 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KwgNO-0007Hd-Vk for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:04:35 -0800 Received: from mail-gx0-f17.google.com ([209.85.217.17]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KwgNL-0007Gl-IF for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:04:34 -0800 Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so521881gxk.10 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:04:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=d7qFEjdwBy4DQEb0OrPks8y5X4Gd75jbMJQ/E47pjks=; b=d7gaj9OEwtJeriZxud4XB78bjbzlxWX5N8zLYGWJ6sOb5wnckKCQZui848SBPmMojS ekNVrzO3xM7ZzpzYBZJ3Qfgz/7UE0vY2RKv0tpCnM6NxoChB5J/mX8SmWOL/3TtN8Ip/ 9YAp+7PlRyiKS5qzVWTE5zazpgH4L/tuOV7JU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=GJFsVjPiJ1kSW5Dwg/P/vz0asyjtdi7PQOeYzqp7fRqgF1c+7tBdyPqNs80lJmkaCv pGqDBy9f6SNvsl2nVXqLSuA1pZ/WbnQHRsGWYHse1LCdlM++ZwctlaH9OtgkaBlB2b45 2azZapDowqQxrIR2M8zIli1oaAPYJMIm66wqI= Received: by 10.150.220.19 with SMTP id s19mr19198535ybg.217.1225645464970; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.199.20 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:04:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <737b61f30811020904p46e90ecfjf8d54bac207c5781@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:04:24 -0600 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: how to say "call"? In-Reply-To: <925d17560811020725p5d1d086ak5014afe67579afb3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <200811012350.00020.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560811020725p5d1d086ak5014afe67579afb3@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14902 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 09:25, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> There was just a discussion on IRC about reversing circumcision. I quoted 1 >> Cor. 7:18 from memory (getting one letter wrong), then translated it into >> Lojban for the benefit of na'ebo la nitcion., but got totally messed up >> trying to say "called". Any suggestions? The only sense I know how to >> say "called" in is te cmene. > > I think "call" in the sense of "summon" could be > "klagau"/"klacpe"/"klami'e", depending on the circumstances. > > klagau "x1 makes x2 go to x3 from x4 via x5 by means x6" > klami'e "x1 commands x2 to go to x3 from x4 via x5 by means (of going) x6" > klacpe "x1 asks x2 to go to x3 from x4 via x5 by means (of going) x6 > in manner (of asking) x7" If this is the new testament "called to service" sense of "called", I think there might be a hint of destiny in the meaning. Not sure how that would affect the lujvo. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.