From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Nov 04 05:27:36 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KxLwV-0002mH-Qo for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:27:36 -0800 Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.170.191]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KxLwS-0002m6-Kh for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:27:35 -0800 Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k40so2430305rnd.0 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:27:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OQ3RbYragUZohoY0F5A2+oR0ynyYLEsJPEdXRc3f308=; b=kKnb1ViKOAvA0lS4ENELgRprM09knNP5DsNnXyClz1vEEAagUDWT/37o0ebDgCsVHj 6kJjxRAjGYHzmAWD0fYAfsaKzanuuNSP69jaQ7TRsaN4R6gT6rC3VnyJAdb48pIAZhie jbW7J2Zr6J6xkXdOgLcG0Y1iyPm+A6mduaL+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=iXhEoMyQ3I+1iJmMfCqsmTJ+HLs4S5A/RkVgzgy566TWvpKEidn/uJa+eFpFIKPbZj Xt/M1r54MJnfwhnvd+I2q0WYo0Lr7OxdAMI+R4ACTdPCneGnM4bDS3kVh730rEO2XLzv ZzAwblulOp9xCq/5E1ZFW3n1p26wn1lnUmLgw= Received: by 10.142.140.15 with SMTP id n15mr789067wfd.32.1225805250668; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.139.12 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:27:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <96f789a60811040527j4b3b94f9i7a68bbe184ee53f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:27:30 -0400 From: "Michael Turniansky" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Sources for luj1999? In-Reply-To: <490F959A.3010109@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081101214236.GI2447@nvg.org> <490CF43A.9030204@lojban.org> <96f789a60811031141w794ae8ffrc716698908f79b59@mail.gmail.com> <490F959A.3010109@lojban.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14921 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Michael Turniansky wrote: >> >> Of course (and I don't know how correctly it might have read in >> 1991), with modern day rafsi, grammar, and gismu places, that sentence >> says something like "At the same time as that, the former day asked of >> Sister Margaret what was a succesful answer (by?) students of home >> security" ;-) > > Several rafsi were changed in 1994. I believe that this is accounted for in > the lujvo1999 file, but it could make looking for usage from before 1994 > more difficult. > Right, I knew about the great rafsi shift, but I don't know if/how gismu places might have changed (did danfu really have a fourth place?), nor grammar might have changed (was "ca ra le pu djedi" really a single clause?) Those do more to mess up the meaning than the one changed lujvo. --gejyspa To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.