From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Nov 04 07:02:28 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KxNQK-0003FG-3r for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:02:28 -0800 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no ([129.241.210.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KxNQC-0003EH-5c for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:02:28 -0800 Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C1D947E0 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:02:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id mA4F24rr012065 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:02:04 +0100 Received: (from arj@localhost) by hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id mA4F240T012064 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:02:04 +0100 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:02:03 +0100 From: Arnt Richard Johansen To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Sources for luj1999? Message-ID: <20081104150203.GN2447@nvg.org> References: <20081101214236.GI2447@nvg.org> <490CF43A.9030204@lojban.org> <96f789a60811031141w794ae8ffrc716698908f79b59@mail.gmail.com> <490F959A.3010109@lojban.org> <96f789a60811040527j4b3b94f9i7a68bbe184ee53f8@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560811040649l21ac48b8g7d000c2aa6867ffd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <925d17560811040649l21ac48b8g7d000c2aa6867ffd@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.ntnu.no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14924 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arj@nvg.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 11:49:41AM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: > > > > Right, I knew about the great rafsi shift, but I don't know if/how > > gismu places might have changed (did danfu really have a fourth > > place?), nor grammar might have changed (was "ca ra le pu djedi" > > really a single clause?) Those do more to mess up the meaning than > > the one changed lujvo. > > "ra" looks suspiciously like the Loglan word for "ro". It does indeed, but in Lojban, "ra" had been a back-counting anaphora all the way since 1988. See http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Miscellaneous+Lojban+Stuff#history . -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ Information wants to be anthropomorphized! To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.